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Long lense imput 400/500/600

 
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Aug 24, 2011 12:18 |  #1

Hello

I was looking at adding a used long lens to my collection. I know there is a few good seller on our forum and are more trust worthy than ebay or Craigs List. My question is this I just pulled my bid on a 600mm, because I really wasn't sure if it was the lens for me, price was around $7200.00 and it was very clean. I also found a 5 yr clean 400mm 2.8L Is for around $6000.00.

I'd like to use the lens mainly for zoo shoots, nature etc, but would like to break into shooting some sports, high school football etc. I have a 2X Ext I use on my 70-200 2.8L so that would extend a 400mm to 800mm.

Any thoughts on what I maybe missing or what I should consider? Will a 5 yr old 400mm 2.8L work on a T2I and or 5D MX II without an issue?

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Aug 24, 2011 13:14 |  #2

Any buddy???


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Aug 24, 2011 14:06 |  #3

when the topic is the longer specialized lenses it sometimes takes longer for folks to respond as most just dream about them, while few have them...


if i were you i'd probably change your body as well...by picking up a 7D for the improved AF over the t2i

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Aug 24, 2011 14:18 |  #4

Having only the 100-400 I can't comment directly on the long primes. But, based on what you want to shoot, it sounds as if you might be better off with something like the 400 f2.8 and tcons rather than a 500 or 600.




  
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Aug 24, 2011 15:25 as a reply to  @ crn3371's post |  #5

If you were looking at nature only, the 500 would be the way to go due to it being relatively handholdable and a little lighter. However, shooting sports is going to likely require faster lenses and higher ISOs due to poor lighting (I'm assuming HS football here). So, if that is really where you want to go, the 400 is a better fit. And upgrade to the 7D for the ISO and AF.


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Aug 24, 2011 15:31 |  #6

I agree that sports aspirations would point to the 400/2.8, but I strongly recommend you try hiring one or more of these lenses before spending the substantial sum required to buy one. The reason I say that is that they are in a totally different weight league from any of your current lenses. It's easy to look at the weight figures and say "sure, it's heavier, but that's ok"; but it's only when you've handled them (especially the 400/2.8 and the 600/4) and used them for a while that you understand what the figures really mean.


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Aug 24, 2011 17:20 |  #7

I used to have an early EF 400 F2.8 (pre IS) and can confidently state it's a stunning lens - though HEAVY - 6.1 Kilo. I have now moved to the 600 F4 IS as my interest is wildlife so I need the extra reach and its ONLY 5.3 Kilo! From what little I know I would suggest that apeture is the priority for sports (especially indoor or under floodlights) wheas for wildlife, especially smaller birds, lenses are almost never too long.
Note "Madweasel's" comments, these lenses are backbreakers if you need to move any real distance on foot. Remember you don't just have to carry the lens + camera, there is also the tripo/gimbal head etc.. etc...
They are superb lenses but try before you buy!


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Aug 24, 2011 20:09 |  #8

The 400 2.8 IS has similar weight as the 600 f4 IS. Both will work well with any EOS DSLR. If you do sports + wildlife, I'd lean towards the 400, as it can be a 400/560/800 mm f/2.8-f/5.6 with workable AF. IQ of the 400 2.8 IS with a 2x TC is still very good, but AF is slower than a 600 f4 + 1.4x.


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Aug 24, 2011 20:20 as a reply to  @ liquidstone's post |  #9

How much does age play a factor in buying a lens. This 400mm 2.8L is 5 yrs old, but well kept. Does almost look new.


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Aug 25, 2011 00:07 as a reply to  @ Hollywoodgt's post |  #10

First, you can't really hand hold any of these lenses, unless its for like 3 seconds. Need a tripod and gimble..

600 isn't my first choice, I sold the one I had never to get another. Too big and not that much longer than the 500 for a BIG increase in size.

I shoot a 800, 500, 400, and 300s.....

800 is too long for most uses, but its pretty awesome....

500 gets used a fair amount.

400 2.8, once I started using it (and its the size of a 600), I use the 500 a lot less. Really superb lens. My favorite....

Age... Doesn't really matter, 5 years is nothing. These things don't get used a whole lot anyways.... If you have real questions, PM me.

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Aug 25, 2011 00:10 |  #11

I'll LOVE to see your T2i pair with any those super tele :D


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Aug 25, 2011 01:09 as a reply to  @ x_tan's post |  #12

Thanks Mark I appreciate that. I'm not certain on what I'm doing now.

As far as the guy asking about the pair up of 2TI a lens. Just like my 70-200 2.8 and a 2X on it. Great results also. I'm buying a 2 camera, just not sure what yet, probably a 5D MKII
I wanted a FF body.


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Aug 25, 2011 12:50 |  #13

Just remember 400mm on a FF body is only 25% narrower field of view than 200mm on a 1.6x crop body.


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Aug 25, 2011 21:52 as a reply to  @ Madweasel's post |  #14

That's the reason for having two bodies will be nice!!!


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Aug 25, 2011 23:34 |  #15

I would seriously consider a massive upgrade in camera. A 5DII is not the camera to be hooked up to one of these big telephotos. Nor is a T2i.

I would again urge a 500/4 but paired with a 7D or 1D3 or 1D4.


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