Re-thinking my Aisle-Walk lens?

Numenorean wrote in post #15221837
I use one shot for aisles and my 5D2 doesn't miss focus in that mode. I've found it to hunt more in AI Servo with the 70-200 so I just don't use that mode.

Thats what i did when i used the 5D2..its pretty good but not like the 5D3. I had misses with the 5D2s and i had to crop a bit more.. not a 5D3.. its got 61 focal points that all work. I put the box on the brides face and let the camera do the rest.....i would never use servo on isle shots with a 5D2,, never,,,honestly, im surprised how good this 5D3 is in servo...wouldnt say its a CANT miss,, but is pretty darn close

Im only using one shot now for formals and portrait situations. I would say its 60-40 with servo getting the 60% of the workload.its remarkably good.

umphotography wrote in post #15221813
With a 5D2 it was like shoot 6-8 and hope 2-3 were good
with a 5D3 its shoot 6-8 and decide which to toss because they are all in focus

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hit the head on the nail. For me, dual cards was the most important feature, but this is definitely an awesome bonus. I also like the vertical / horizontal AF switching points which makes it easy to switch from a portrait shot to a landscape shot QUICKLY and nail the shot with the framing you want without cropping. The faster FPS is nice, but not amazing, Higher ISO noise performance is always a want. There's nothing it doesn't do that I wish it did. (ok maybe wifi transferring would be cool )

It just seems to me that the 5D3 was designed to be a wedding camera, by someone who photographs weddings. It nails focus every time, the ISO performance is great.

I was going to back it up with a 5D2, but I would miss the 5D3 too much when switching, so I'm saving for a second mark 3.

umphotography wrote in post #15221891
wouldnt say its a CANT miss,, but is pretty darn close

No, it doesnt miss. Its your fault.

For the processional, would any of you trust a 5D2 in servo with any point other than the centre point ? I'm shooting with a classic and use centre point recomposition, just to be clear.

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #15227109
For the processional, would any of you trust a 5D2 in servo with any point other than the centre point ? I'm shooting with a classic and use centre point recomposition, just to be clear.

Youd have to trust it. There really is no other option. In a slow moving situation, like a processional or a first dance, etc. It should work fine. The the compositional limitations that it causes that is a bummer.

I've just gotten my first 5D3 and was wondering about this, not so much from a lens perspective but around that of the focus point.

I've always been a focus and recomposer using one shot. Now, it seems that I want to go to AI Servo, and more or at least different focus points. For those who are doing this, how have you selected your focus points? Still middle (maybe expanded), focus on the bride, shoot a bit wide, and crop down? Or a block of focus points off to the right and frame correctly with no need to crop? Or all 61 and just trust the camera to pick the right ones?

Different, depending on camera orientation. For portrait, top center, for landscape, center. I move them if I need to and if I have time, but when people are moving, I don't usually have time to move the focus points around.

Peacefield wrote in post #15235970
I've just gotten my first 5D3 and was wondering about this, not so much from a lens perspective but around that of the focus point.

I've always been a focus and recomposer using one shot. Now, it seems that I want to go to AI Servo, and more or at least different focus points. For those who are doing this, how have you selected your focus points? Still middle (maybe expanded), focus on the bride, shoot a bit wide, and crop down? Or a block of focus points off to the right and frame correctly with no need to crop? Or all 61 and just trust the camera to pick the right ones?

Really depends on how you set it up. I think Nickson is only using the cross points. Ive turned off all auto AF functions. I use AF expansion and put the center box on the brides face. All surrounding points are active and i do not get any misses with this. If i use single point, and i do alot, i can get a miss. Not because the camera missed but because someone moved when i clicked and it locked on something directly behind the untended point. Never happens with AF expansion. I have my wifes camera set to AF expansion and she does not miss that much with this set up. page 72 &76 on the manual explains this well.

My opinion is That servo is more accurate and responsive than one shot with this 5D3. Kind of the opposite of the 5D2. With a 5D2 you put in in center point, one shot, focus recompose and hope. The 5D3 servo is just so accurate ad reliable that i leave it in servo the majority of the time and put it in one shot for formals and portrait type situations or when its not fast like the ceremony. I move the focal point during the ceremony because im moving around, shooting shallow and looking for specific stuff to capture. Single shot works best for me in these situations.

The usable cross points and lens that work with them are on pages 79-83..probably a must read for a 5D3 owner to be very familiar with.

I use case 1 for the majority of our wedding work flow. You can also customize the case settings for better capture success. Pg 93 explains it. My advise is to SLOW THINGS DOWN. Back the tracking sensitivity down 1 notch. Pre set is zero. Ive got all 3 settings backed off 1 notch for wedding work.Works great.

umphotography wrote in post #15236050
Really depends on how you set it up.

Thanks so much for this thorough explanation!