Blurry pictures when people walk down the isle for wedding...Help!

Nice Jim!

jcolman wrote in post #13036152
There's your problem right there. It is possible to shoot at much higher ISO's and get great results.

I shot this pic with the same lens you have at ISO 3200 @ 1/80 sec. Granted I am using a better camera but you should still be able to push yours much higher than ISO 200.

Try some test shots and see if you can't get good results without having to flash everything.

Beautiful.

Which version of the 70-200 IS are you using? OP never stated the make or model. I suspect we've got an f/4 lens here that may not even be a Canon. The Rebel T1 is not at fault. Though it is not a pro level camera, it is more than capable in the right hands. I used an XTi as a second shooter for The Wife for a year and produced good results.

For indoor shooting, you'll need an f/2.8 lens, and shoot wide open. The Canon EF 70-200 2.8 L IS is perfect for this, but you should be able to get away with the non-IS version if you're careful. Shoot at ISO 400 or even 800 if needed, although 800 will begin to introduce a bit of noise. The stop you lose by shooting ISO 200 isn't worth the perceived improvement in image quality, especially if you have blurry images. We've shot plenty of weddings this way without supplemental lighting because of venue rules. But it's going to be difficult to say for sure what the OP should do without a posted photo with EXIF data. Otherwise, we're all just guessing.

jblaschke wrote in post #13036906
Which version of the 70-200 IS are you using? OP never stated the make or model. I suspect we've got an f/4 lens here that may not even be a Canon. The Rebel T1 is not at fault. Though it is not a pro level camera, it is more than capable in the right hands. I used an XTi as a second shooter for The Wife for a year and produced good results.

For indoor shooting, you'll need an f/2.8 lens, and shoot wide open. The Canon EF 70-200 2.8 L IS is perfect for this, but you should be able to get away with the non-IS version if you're careful. Shoot at ISO 400 or even 800 if needed, although 800 will begin to introduce a bit of noise. The stop you lose by shooting ISO 200 isn't worth the perceived improvement in image quality, especially if you have blurry images. We've shot plenty of weddings this way without supplemental lighting because of venue rules. But it's going to be difficult to say for sure what the OP should do without a posted photo with EXIF data. Otherwise, we're all just guessing.

Good point. My 70-200 is a mark II, f/2.8 with IS.

jblaschke wrote in post #13036906
For indoor shooting, you'll need an f/2.8 lens, and shoot wide open. The Canon EF 70-200 2.8 L IS is perfect for this, but you should be able to get away with the non-IS version if you're careful.

When I was checking out lenses the original 2.8 was not rated as high in the sharpness area. My F4 is sharper according the MTF charts and reviews. The 2.8 mark II version is supposed to be superb.

digital paradise wrote in post #13037011
When I was checking out lenses the original 2.8 was not rated as high in the sharpness area. My F4 is sharper according the MTF charts and reviews. The 2.8 mark II version is supposed to be superb.

For all intents and purposes, the 70-200 f2.8 IS MKI is sharp enough. That was a workhorse lens for many folks before the MKII came out.

Yeah, I have the MKII version...so just sayin'.

Even if it were an F4, thats only one stop difference. Since he is getting a good exposure at 1/200th at ISO 200, he could easily use the F4 at the same shutter and iso 400, or close the aperture and shoot at iso 800. Wide open on a crop at 2.8 on a 70-200 makes for really really small DOF.

JakAHearts wrote in post #13037137
Even if it were an F4, thats only one stop difference. Since he is getting a good exposure at 1/200th at ISO 200, he could easily use the F4 at the same shutter and iso 400, or close the aperture and shoot at iso 800. Wide open on a crop at 2.8 on a 70-200 makes for really really small DOF.

That's the problem. I don't think he is getting a good exposure at 1/200 sec at ISO 200 otherwise he would not be resorting to using flash.

I have yet to see a church with that much ambient light.

nicksan wrote in post #13037132
For all intents and purposes, the 70-200 f2.8 IS MKI is sharp enough. That was a workhorse lens for many folks before the MKII came out.

Yeah, I have the MKII version...so just sayin'.

True that. But my old 70-200 mk I was not sharp enough for me wide open, hence the reason I upgraded.

jcolman wrote in post #13037179
True that. But my old 70-200 mk I was not sharp enough for me wide open, hence the reason I upgraded.

Mine was pretty good...after about 4 trips to Canon!
Agreed, the MKII is MUCH sharper for sure! Just a great lens and is a pleasure to use.

jcolman wrote in post #13037172
That's the problem. I don't think he is getting a good exposure at 1/200 sec at ISO 200 otherwise he would not be resorting to using flash.

I have yet to see a church with that much ambient light.

I wish I could shoot at 1/200 ISO200 at churches...more like f2.8, 1/120, ISO1600-3200 on average.

Actually, you can shoot at faster speeds. There are four buttons on the top row on the 430. click the third one from the left, and a box with "H" and the flash symbol will appear on the screen. will work at speeds up to 1/4000, although the flash will only fire a few feet at best at 4000. you could, however, probably go to 300 or 400 without much trouble. the High Speed sync is the best tool I have ever seen for Hummingbirds.

CameraClicker wrote in post #13037215
Actually, you can shoot at faster speeds. There are four buttons on the top row on the 430. click the third one from the left, and a box with "H" and the flash symbol will appear on the screen. will work at speeds up to 1/4000, although the flash will only fire a few feet at best at 4000. you could, however, probably go to 300 or 400 without much trouble. the High Speed sync is the best tool I have ever seen for Hummingbirds.

Probably not needed for shooting inside churches and most likely not the source of the OP's issues...

nicksan wrote in post #13037132
For all intents and purposes, the 70-200 f2.8 IS MKI is sharp enough. That was a workhorse lens for many folks before the MKII came out.

Yeah, I have the MKII version...so just sayin'.

I know it is sharp enough. I just brought this up in case someone is reading this and wants to go and purchase one.

CameraClicker wrote in post #13037215
Actually, you can shoot at faster speeds.

But you lose a lot of flash power if it's your main light. And if it's a focus issue (which it sounds like it is), HSS does nothing for you.