Mark II versus Rebel T3i

mileslong24 wrote in post #13049678
I have a T3i and have no problems at all with video. I purchased a class 10 card w/ the camera and have had zero issues w/ video, other than the fact that it fills an 8 gb card QUICKLY when recording HD. I'm thinking it's an issue w/ your camera.

As for your question, I personally would not purchase a 1D. Just from reading your questions you're obviously new to this, which isn't bad, but you should you learn on your T3 before you consider stepping up. You can get plenty good pics on your camera and should focus on getting better glass before a new body. Plus, if you're paying 800 for the 1D, there is no way you're getting any quality lens for that camera and staying under your 1k budget. Good luck whatever route you go.

As Miles said, getting a new camera isn't going to magically improve your photos. Spend some money on some good lenses and practice practice practice. You will know when you have reached the limitations for your body..

Well I know that the lens is reviewed as a good lens, but there is always room for improvement :O)
I will get a good tripod first, and if I still have problems, I'll see from there.

thanks

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C.Michael wrote in post #13049701
As Miles said, getting a new camera isn't going to magically improve your photos. Spend some money on some good lenses and practice practice practice. You will know when you have reached the limitations for your body..

sega62 wrote in post #13049457
it's just that I don't really like my pics compare to better camera out there.
I'm thinking of getting something used that could make better crisp and sharp pics...

Your T3i is perfectly capable of "better crisp and sharp pics". What you're going to get with a 1Dii is a significantly larger camera with many more complex settings which you likely won't understand how to set up/utilize - and therefore, the possibility of getting much worse images than you're currently getting.

The biggest advantages of a 1D series camera are a faster/more advanced AF system and a much higher frame rate (shots taken in rapid succession) - neither of which will have any significant benefit for landscape and/or night shots. If you had said that you're shooting a lot of sports and having trouble with your AF keeping up, many people would likely recommend the 1Dii as that is where its strengths lie - but as C. Michael said, a new camera isn't going to "magically" improve your photos. Learning/practicing how to shoot and post-process will have a much larger impact upon the quality of your images. I don't know what lens(es) you're using, but even a lens upgrade would probably have more impact than a camera body upgrade.

I'm still waiting for these bad pictures.

sega62 wrote in post #13049695
You are right about it, I'm a new to this business
The thing is when I see people shooting great pics with better camera, I have a tendency to think it all comes from a good camera, and I'm not talking about artistically!
But I found out that editing the pic also improved the pics greatly!

thanks

The photographer(YOU) and your lenses will have a bigger impact on the quality of your images than the specific camera you choose.
That 18mp T3i is a GREAT camera. If you are just starting out, you should not be 'limited' by that camera for a loooong time...imo.

Obviously it is your $, do what you want..but take it from one 'gearhead' to another..$ does not solve your problems. BETTER LENSES WILL!
Seriously. Learn to use the camera...then, if you notice yourself being let down by it you will atleast know in which areas it is letting you down(AF,metering,IQ,er​gonomics,etc,etc).

btw, the 1DmII is NOT something I recommend if you enjoy the menu, screen rez and quality, and ergonomocs of the T3i..
The 1DmII is quite old. While still a brilliant camera in the right hands..imho, I would say your T3i is perfectly suited to your needs and wants right now!!


Saying all of this, would I give up my 5D Mark II to go back to something of less 'quality'..if I had to.easily. you can always buy another camera, but to learn to use whatever camera you have is all that matters.

IF you feel your "Rebel" is not enough camera for you, go to an xxD model, I would suggest a 40D. $450 and still considered one of the better cameras around.

I made the jump from xxxD(Rebel) to a 1DmII and did not care for the HUGE body style, archaic menu systems and LCD..while the images were very nice...I sold it and bought a 40D and did not see any noticeable drop in the overall quality of my images.at all...But I was MUCH happier with the 40D and it just gave me more room to grow...if that makes any sense..

good luck!

sega62 wrote in post #13049636
Hi Tom,

Not really, I'm using a class 10 and still, I heve to manipulate a few settings and it allows me to record more than 5 seconds.
I have emailed Canon about it, and I have to speak with someone ''live'' about it, since there are many problems associated with sdhc card via video.

There is no compatibility issue. As suggested, perhaps it is a problem with your camera. Or, perhaps you have a counterfeit card.

Thanks

I just bought a tripod and my god it makes a whole new experience, but I need more details, will do more experience with the AF, iso, etc!

HyperCams wrote in post #13050810
The photographer(YOU) and your lenses will have a bigger impact on the quality of your images than the specific camera you choose.
That 18mp T3i is a GREAT camera. If you are just starting out, you should not be 'limited' by that camera for a loooong time...imo.

Obviously it is your $, do what you want..but take it from one 'gearhead' to another..$ does not solve your problems. BETTER LENSES WILL!
Seriously. Learn to use the camera...then, if you notice yourself being let down by it you will atleast know in which areas it is letting you down(AF,metering,IQ,er​gonomics,etc,etc).

btw, the 1DmII is NOT something I recommend if you enjoy the menu, screen rez and quality, and ergonomocs of the T3i..
The 1DmII is quite old. While still a brilliant camera in the right hands..imho, I would say your T3i is perfectly suited to your needs and wants right now!!


Saying all of this, would I give up my 5D Mark II to go back to something of less 'quality'..if I had to.easily. you can always buy another camera, but to learn to use whatever camera you have is all that matters.

IF you feel your "Rebel" is not enough camera for you, go to an xxD model, I would suggest a 40D. $450 and still considered one of the better cameras around.

I made the jump from xxxD(Rebel) to a 1DmII and did not care for the HUGE body style, archaic menu systems and LCD..while the images were very nice...I sold it and bought a 40D and did not see any noticeable drop in the overall quality of my images.at all...But I was MUCH happier with the 40D and it just gave me more room to grow...if that makes any sense..

good luck!

Hi,


No, I got a sdhc card fron Best Buy, class 10!
But there is a issue with the camera vs the sdhc card, cause I did get in touch with Canon support via email, but they want me to call em since there is a lot of things that could trigger a problem.

I will post the answer tomorrow as soon as I get in touch with a technician!

RTPVid wrote in post #13050825
There is no compatibility issue. As suggested, perhaps it is a problem with your camera. Or, perhaps you have a counterfeit card.

Yes, it sounds like you have an issue with your T3i...hope you get it figured out. keep us informed!!

And yea, when I finally bought a nice tripod and head(nice for my measely level), it changed everything!!

I strongly advise getting a book on the T3i.It will really help! I get one for every camera I buy...
Also have a bunch of books I would recommend reading to get a better perspective on how things work with a digital SLR(or any digital camera..)..

Good luck!

I think if you have to ask you should probably get the T3i...

I will surely keep you guys informed on the situation of the sdhc card problems, wich is really weird, cause I can change or play with the af point setting and it works, but I don't want to always have to do it, there must be a reason for why it stops after 4-5 seconds.
Must be a firmware, or something real stupid.

Thanks for the infos on a T3i book, I will check that out!

HyperCams wrote in post #13051187
Yes, it sounds like you have an issue with your T3i...hope you get it figured out. keep us informed!!

And yea, when I finally bought a nice tripod and head(nice for my measely level), it changed everything!!

I strongly advise getting a book on the T3i.It will really help! I get one for every camera I buy...
Also have a bunch of books I would recommend reading to get a better perspective on how things work with a digital SLR(or any digital camera..)..

Good luck!

A more expensive camera won't make you a better photographer, experience and a willingness to learn how to improve are the only ways. I shoot with a 1D Mark III and a 60D... and honestly, you can't really tell the photos apart unless you look at the EXIF data (or the file size). In fact, some of my favorite and best photos ever were taken with the "outdated" 40D and are framed and hanging on my wall.

Josh_30 wrote in post #13052696
A more expensive camera won't make you a better photographer, experience and a willingness to learn how to improve are the only ways. I shoot with a 1D Mark III and a 60D... and honestly, you can't really tell the photos apart unless you look at the EXIF data (or the file size). In fact, some of my favorite and best photos ever were taken with the "outdated" 40D and are framed and hanging on my wall.

Really?
A lot of people seem to like their 40 D for some reason!

By the way, I get to see my picture on my HD YV, wich I'm sure it's not the best periphéric, got a better solution?

sega62 wrote in post #13053026
Really?
A lot of people seem to like their 40 D for some reason!

By the way, I get to see my picture on my HD YV, wich I'm sure it's not the best periphéric, got a better solution?

I dont know about using your HD TV as I never have, and do not know what kind of TV you own..
but, I can tell you the images look very nice on my laptop(15" LCD), and absolutely amazing on my desktop(my image editing computer w/24" Samsung LCD)!!

Do you own any photo editing SW(software) like PhotoShop,etc?
You may like being able to tweak the image to get the look, or even more artistic feel, you were after when you snapped the shot..
There are lots of options..I am sure someone with more/better knowledge on where to start will have more helpful answers, but I have been using PhotoShop for years(started with AstroPhotography) and am a very big fan of PS-CS3...I have a torrent version(I can barely afford the gear to take pics let alone the SW to process them.lol(dont mean to offend anyone.. ))

Could not agree MORE!!
Like I said earlier. OP should stick with the T3i,which is a VERY capable camera, until they are ready to move 'up'...IF they even feel the need to..and if they do, go with an xxD body, not an xD...
obviously not my money, so do what you want..some people have the $ to start off with a 5D2 and $k's worth of glass...I surely didnt.
I wish I didnt have a horrible addiction to buying gear(seriously,it's like heroin or something.. ) otherwise I would have saved a LOT of money learning that lesson you mentioned.
But, I do disagree with one thing;

I would agree to the point of the 40/50D, 60D, 7D, T2i, 1DmII, and others I have owned/seen over the years. My 1DmIII definitely had a feel to the images that other cameras did not capture.imo
Also, the second I put my first image onto my monitor from my 5D2, I knew there was something very different, and distinguishable, about the images...and the camera, too!

However...if I had started with a 5D2, I seriously do not believe I would have been able to 'pull off' a proper image to even notice how brilliant the camera is.
that goes for any camera model. get to the point where you use it well, and you will see how great just about any camera is able to deliver really remarkable images..

just my 2 cents..