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Sep 12, 2011 16:17 |  #1

Week 2, second time using flash at the games when it gets dark. I think it went a little better this week, but still have a hard time remembering to change the aperture as the action gets closer or farther away.

Only the last 2 were flashed. I used 2 YN-560s mounted on my mono-pod triggered with Cactus V5s. The flashes were set at 1/4 power.

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Sep 12, 2011 16:24 |  #2

not a fan of flashed sports but you have to do whatever it takes to get a clean shot. you have some nice action shots




  
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Sep 12, 2011 20:45 |  #3

ehh i dont like the look of flashed sports either..




  
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Sep 13, 2011 08:39 |  #4

You know, to be honest, I didn't either. But I saw a couple of guys here and at another forum that do flashed football really well and I thought I would give it a try. With using 2 flashes, they don't have to work hard and the recycle time is immediate.

I've tried it now for two weeks, and I'm starting to like it. I am shooting at ISO 800 as opposed to 3200 on my IIn, and the shots are cleaner, the colors pop a lot more, and they are sharper than when I would shoot ambient. The only thing is, it is much harder because I can't shoot off a 2-3 shot burst at 8.5 fps. But set at low burst, I can't shoot 5 fps with the flashes. It makes me have to choose my shots a lot more and work on my timing. Plus at the home field, it is so dark that shooting 1/400, f2.8, ISO 3200 is really underexposed. And with the 1D Mk IIn (or any camera for that matter) the noise is ridiculous if the image is underexposed.

I am going to keep trying it for the whole season and make a decision at the end. But I am liking what I see so far!


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Sep 13, 2011 13:50 |  #5

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You know, to be honest, I didn't either. But I saw a couple of guys here and at another forum that do flashed football really well and I thought I would give it a try. With using 2 flashes, they don't have to work hard and the recycle time is immediate.

I've tried it now for two weeks, and I'm starting to like it. I am shooting at ISO 800 as opposed to 3200 on my IIn, and the shots are cleaner, the colors pop a lot more, and they are sharper than when I would shoot ambient. The only thing is, it is much harder because I can't shoot off a 2-3 shot burst at 8.5 fps. But set at low burst, I can't shoot 5 fps with the flashes. It makes me have to choose my shots a lot more and work on my timing. Plus at the home field, it is so dark that shooting 1/400, f2.8, ISO 3200 is really underexposed. And with the 1D Mk IIn (or any camera for that matter) the noise is ridiculous if the image is underexposed.

I am going to keep trying it for the whole season and make a decision at the end. But I am liking what I see so far!

Good work Eric and I applaud you on giving it a shot since I know you have never liked flashed night sports. I do think you need a little more ambient leak in those two (different mindsets but I'll tolerate a tiny bit of ghosting in favor of more balance, others won't). If you find you like using the flash, I'd suggest buying one of the battery packs (I use a Pixel something or other pack). At 1/4 power, you can fire off 2-3 shots with no issue at all in terms of flash output.


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Sep 14, 2011 19:40 |  #6

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Good work Eric and I applaud you on giving it a shot since I know you have never liked flashed night sports. I do think you need a little more ambient leak in those two (different mindsets but I'll tolerate a tiny bit of ghosting in favor of more balance, others won't). If you find you like using the flash, I'd suggest buying one of the battery packs (I use a Pixel something or other pack). At 1/4 power, you can fire off 2-3 shots with no issue at all in terms of flash output.

Thank you Scott! I'll will try this week to leak a little more ambient in the shots. I had bought 2 of the Yongnuo battery packs, but they died pretty quick after I bought them and I never got around to returning them. So I will have to give the Pixel packs a try. But it would make it nice to have that extra juice!

The funny thing is, I think I am starting to like flashed night sports. The more I look at others that have it figured out, I really like it!


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Sep 15, 2011 09:16 |  #7

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Thank you Scott! I'll will try this week to leak a little more ambient in the shots. I had bought 2 of the Yongnuo battery packs, but they died pretty quick after I bought them and I never got around to returning them. So I will have to give the Pixel packs a try. But it would make it nice to have that extra juice!

The funny thing is, I think I am starting to like flashed night sports. The more I look at others that have it figured out, I really like it!

Done right it really can look great, kudos on being open minded about it. FYI, I have had great luck with my Pixel packs. They are dual circuit which is nice since its not all or none unlike some of the other packs. I think pricing is about the same as the Y packs.


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