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Sep 14, 2011 12:55 |  #1

I noticed that my photos seem "degraded" when I upload them to flickr. So is it something I am doing wrong or is that just a nature of the beast (flickr)?
My simple process (CS4) is as follows:

  • Open RAW file in ACR
    • Adjust (as needed) WB, exposure, recovery, fill, blacks, clarity, vibrance and saturation
    • Adjust contrast in Curves
  • Transfer to PS
    • Resize for web (1025 on long side, 72 or 75ppi)
    • Sharpen using Unsharp Mask (75 or 100, 1, 1)
    • Fade Luminosity
    • Save as JPEG
  • Upload to FlickR


Looking at these couple of shots and EXIF do you see something I am doing wrong?
It could be that the image quality is bad and I cant help it with my PP but it seems like the images look a lot better right before I upload them to Flickr.

Its also very possible that I am paranoid and making stuff up and my images are superb but I dont realize it. LOL

IMAGE: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6063/6146229252_f415658fb6_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mszuminski/6146​229252/  (external link)
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IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

IMG_4839 (external link) by MSzuminski (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6196/6145679471_a31f9b319d_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mszuminski/6145​679471/  (external link)
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Please help the newbie out. :)

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Sep 14, 2011 13:52 |  #2

Is a colour thing or a general IQ concern?

Colour - is a matching issue?

Are you shooting in sRGB or aRGB? If aRGB are you using Save For Web Devices? In Save For Web Devices there is a Convert to sRGB checkbox. Also check Embed Colour Profile and in the preview select use document profile. You can also go - Edit - Convert To Profile and pick sRGB to permanently convert you file.

Sharpening

Personally I'm seeing a lot of artifacts - possibly from resizing, sharpening or both. I think a Radius of 1 is too much for the web. 0.3 should be plenty. I never touch the Threshhold.

As for PPI you can leave it at anything. PPI is for print only and will not effect web viewing.

Have a look at these videos. In the resizing one the presenter states a threshold of 3 for print but 0.3 is adequate for web. You gotta get past the upsizing part.

http://www.youtube.com …4mV3NsLmXw&feat​ure=relmfu (external link)

In the sharpening video the presenter deletes the Smart Sharpen filter at about minute 5:30 . I don't know why but I leave it for masking purposes.

http://www.youtube.com …feature=player_​embedded#! (external link)

After you are done try this amazing process. If you need help just let us know.

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Sep 14, 2011 13:55 |  #3

Aslo could I get a RAW file and check it for you?


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Sep 14, 2011 14:09 |  #4

digital paradise wrote in post #13103077 (external link)
Aslo could I get a RAW file and check it for you?

absolutely. how do I get it to you?

I have a feeling it is something I am doing wrong or not doing at all. its mostly artifacts that bother me so it could be I am oversharpening or something.

I just checked EXIF and it is sRGB.


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Sep 14, 2011 14:14 |  #5

I hoped you would :) Personally I have never done it. I have seen people post links here. Hopefully someone will read this thread and help out. Just gotta wait a bit.

You send it is is by email. I think you get a few free ones. I don't know much about this stuff.

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Sep 14, 2011 14:42 |  #6

You can make a Raw (or any) file available using YouSendIt.com.

With the free use, you enter your email address as the "recipient", then upload. You will receive a notification right away that will contain a link to your file. Copy that link and paste it here so that people can download the file.

I'd suggest that you do this with the jpeg file you uploaded to Flickr, not just the Raw file. You will have to go through two separate uploads, but it would be useful for us to see if the breakdown was in your resizing/sharpening or in the processing Flickr did to it.


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Sep 14, 2011 14:52 |  #7

Thanks Tony. I copied those instructions.


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Sep 14, 2011 15:12 |  #8

Thank you, Tony.
I will give it a whirl when I get home.


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Sep 14, 2011 15:17 |  #9

What browser are you using to view them on Flickr? Chrome isn't color-managed, so even if you use sRGB, they may look bad in Chrome. Try viewing them in Firefox or Safari (if Mac) and see if they still look bad on your Flickr account.

I changed from Chrome back to Firefox for exactly this reason. I like the features and speed of Chrome, but no color management was a deal-breaker.


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Sep 14, 2011 15:27 |  #10

right now I am at work so using Explorer, at home I have Firefox.

does this one look any better? It does look better than the others to me.

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Sep 14, 2011 15:52 |  #11

Make sure you're using sRgb.


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Sep 14, 2011 16:12 |  #12

EXIF for the last one I posted:

Exposure 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture f/5.6
Focal Length 146 mm
ISO Speed 800
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash Off, Did not fire
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
Software Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
Date and Time (Modified) 2011:09:13 23:38:01
Artist Photographer: MSzuminski
Copyright Copyright MSzuminski 2011
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE
Date and Time (Original) 2011:07:19 18:06:37.10-04:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2011:07:19 18:06:37
Max Aperture Value 5.2
Subject Distance 5.53 m
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Sub Sec Time 10
Sub Sec Time Original 10
Sub Sec Time Digitized 10
Color Space sRGB
Focal Plane X-Resolution 5315.43624161074 dpi
Focal Plane Y-Resolution 5342.32715008432 dpi
Custom Rendered Normal
Exposure Mode Auto
White Balance Auto
Scene Capture Type Standard
Compression JPEG (old-style)
By-line Photographer: MSzuminski
Copyright Notice Copyright MSzuminski 2011
Global Angle 30
Global Altitude 30
Copyright Flag True
Photoshop Quality 10
Photoshop Format Standard
Progressive Scans 3 Scans
XMPToolkit Adobe XMP Core 4.2.2-c063 53.352624, 2008/07/30-18:12:18
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
Rating 0
Metadata Date 2011:09:13 23:38:01-04:00
Format image/jpeg
Creator Photographer: MSzuminski
Rights Copyright MSzuminski 2011
Lens EF-S55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS
Lens ID 49
Image Number 0
Flash Compensation 0
Owner Name M Szuminski
Color Mode 3
ICCProfile Name sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Marked True
Original Document ID xmp.did:F2E882F182DEE0​119950F3A848A7166B
History Action saved
History Instance ID xmp.iid:F2E882F182DEE0​119950F3A848A7166B
History When 2011:09:13 23:38:01-04:00
History Software Agent Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
History Changed /
Viewing Conditions Illuminant Type D50
Measurement Observer CIE 1931
Measurement Flare 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant D65
Color Transform YCbCr
Flash Return No return detection
Flash Mode Off
Flash Function False
Flash Red Eye Mode False


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Sep 14, 2011 16:18 |  #13

Mike, let me get this straight -- are you just talkingg about the "oversharp" look you see on your first set of photos, or to problems you are having with the colors?


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Sep 14, 2011 16:25 |  #14

Tony, its mostly the oversharp look/artifacts/noise that bothers me.


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Sep 14, 2011 16:34 |  #15

Post an unprocessed file. Still like to see a RAW. File.


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