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Sep 15, 2011 18:09 |  #1

I'll apologize in advance as I'm sure this has been asked a ton of times but I've not come up with a search that gives me what I'm looking for without a billion other extraneous threads . . . :oops:

I'm taking images for a client that were processed out from LR at 100%. I need to make them more upload/download friendly. Fastone Photo Resizer is my preferred non-LR compression tool. 90% quality gets me plenty of compression and, of course on my monitor, the before and after look identical. But what about prints maybe as large as 16x24? Will 80-90% compression have any perceptible impact on IQ?

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Sep 15, 2011 18:57 |  #2

When you say "80-90% compression", do you actually mean "80-90% Quality"? They are the opposite of each other!

Plenty of people will say use a Quality of, say, 90 because there is no noticeable difference compared to 100, other than the larger file size at 100. That's a decent approach for printing up to larger sizes.

For viewing on a monitor/Web, my quality in Lightroom is just set to 70. I don't see anything troublesome from it. I just prefer a higher quality for prints, although I rarely use an outside printer. I have tons of prints that I've done here directly from Lightroom, but of course there is no jpeg compression used:)!

So you'll know, the places where jpeg compression "artifacts" do show up are areas of what should be a smooth gradient of tones, such as a clear sky. I have prints from old jpegs that, when you look closely show that type of artifact. So, don't be carless with your jpeg quality, especially with that type of scene. But like I said, I toss 70-quality images up to the Web with no complaints!


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Sep 15, 2011 19:03 |  #3

Yes, I'm actually saying it backwards; 80-90% quality.

Thanks for the insights, Tony.


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Sep 15, 2011 19:21 |  #4

Have a read: http://regex.info …room-goodies/jpeg-quality (external link)


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Sep 15, 2011 21:34 |  #5

100% is totally unnecessary and pointless. Even 80% is probably unnecessary. 60-70% is fine.

I use Q10 in Photoshop, and that's overkill. Q8 is fine. I forget how that translates to LR.


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Sep 16, 2011 03:28 |  #6

Quote from the above linked article by Jeffrey Friedl:

The Lightroom default JPEG export quality of 75, falling in the 70〜76 range, seems to provide for as good a visible result as the highest quality setting for all the samples except for the bridge, which seems to suffer at least slight posterization banding at all levels, including even “lossless TIFF”. The file size, even at this relatively high 70〜76 setting, is still about one third that of the 93〜100 setting, so is well worth it in most situations. Those who blindly use the maximum setting for their exports likely waste a lot of local disk space, upload bandwidth, and remote storage space. But conversely, those who blindly use some lesser setting risk posterization in the occasional photo with an unlucky sky gradient.

Overall, my recommendation is to understand the situation, allowing you to avoid acting blindly.


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Sep 16, 2011 08:25 |  #7

But what about prints maybe as large as 16x24?

For a print that big, & for a client who will do who knows what with the file, I'd only use 100%.


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