Which one is better and why? I need a printer for printing all sizes of print, color and B&W. Is 13 differnet ink colors better than 10 or can you get by with 10 with premium paper?
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Sep 20, 2011 21:29 | #1 Which one is better and why? I need a printer for printing all sizes of print, color and B&W. Is 13 differnet ink colors better than 10 or can you get by with 10 with premium paper?
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tonylong ...winded More info | Sep 20, 2011 22:18 | #2 I've read that each is great for different things, but I'm correct on leads in B&W prints. I haven't heard of either being "sub-par" for color prints. Tony
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Sep 20, 2011 22:26 | #3 tonylong wrote in post #13136925 I've read that each is great for different things, but I'm correct on leads in B&W prints. I haven't heard of either being "sub-par" for color prints. I could be qrong, but I think that the superior B&W one is the 9500. Hopefully some one who actually has one and "knows stuff" can chime in here and either confirm this or can set me straight with some lashes with a wet noodle! Aand, for further reading, if you scroll to the bottom of this page and look in the "Similar Threads" section, you will see that your title triggered a foum mini-search that turned up some related threads -- non "one vs the other", but at least info on both that can help you make an informed decision!
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Eng27DCFD Member 239 posts Joined May 2007 Location: Maryland More info | Sep 21, 2011 14:44 | #4 I have the 9500 and it is great. I'm still experimenting with it, but I don't have any complaints.
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MCAsan Goldmember 3,918 posts Likes: 88 Joined Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta More info | Which one is better and why? I need a printer for printing all sizes of print, color and B&W. Is 13 differnet ink colors better than 10 or can you get by with 10 with premium paper? 9500II uses Lucia pigment inks, not dye inks like 9000. Having multiple blacks and the other colors is definitely worth it. It does a great job on color and B&W prints on a wide range of papers.
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tonylong ...winded More info | Sep 21, 2011 19:38 | #6 So, it sounds like the 9500 is preferred for B&W due to the multiple black ink choices, and then from what I understand pigment inks have better longetivity than dye inks? Tony
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themadman Cream of the Crop 18,871 posts Likes: 14 Joined Nov 2009 Location: Northern California More info | Sep 21, 2011 19:55 | #7 It is really just pigments vs dyes as far as I can tell. Will | WilliamLiuPhotography.com
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MCAsan Goldmember 3,918 posts Likes: 88 Joined Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta More info | it not just that pigments sit differently on paper compared to dye. It is also the choice of the ink colors such as dual blacks.
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EricXu Senior Member 688 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2010 Location: Santa Clara, California More info | Sep 22, 2011 16:54 | #9 If B&W and archival characteristics are of top importance, go for the 9500 all the way. Otherwise, in general dye inks have more vibrant colors than pigment inks.
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Sep 23, 2011 20:17 | #10 Well after looking at the display and pictures, I went with the 9500 MKII. The B&W detail make it a no brainer over the 9000. Now I have to knock down a wall just to get it in the office. I look forward to many years of service from it. One thing they said to do is to clean the printer heads once a week....
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irishman Goldmember 4,098 posts Likes: 14 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ More info | Sep 24, 2011 00:27 | #11 I seldom do B&W. To my eyes, the colors in the 9000 popped more than the 9500, it is a LOT faster, and you won't live long enough to see a degredation in quality from either of them. 6D, G9, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma 15mm Fisheye, Sigma 50 2.8 macro, Nikon 14-24G 2.8, Canon 16-35 2.8 II, Canon 24-105 f/4 IS, Canon 70-200 2.8 IS, tripod, lights, other stuff.
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ralff Senior Member 766 posts Joined May 2008 Location: Asheville NC More info | My father in law will disagree, he has dye prints a little over ten years old that are fading badly already! I went with the pigments and am very satisfied, I am selling a few prints and would not sell any print that was not printed with pigment inks. Canon 6D - Canon 7D - gripped, Canon 50D - gripped, EFS10-22mm, 17-40 f4 L, nifty-fifty, EF 28-135mm IS, 100-400 f4.5-5.6 L IS USM, Tokina AT-X 100mm f/2.8 ProD Macro, Benbo Trekker, Feisol 3371 w/ Kirk BH-3 ball head - Epson Pic-Mate, Epson 2200, Epson 3880
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irishman Goldmember 4,098 posts Likes: 14 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ More info | Sep 24, 2011 15:34 | #13 ralff wrote in post #13154916 My father in law will disagree, he has dye prints a little over ten years old that are fading badly already! I went with the pigments and am very satisfied, I am selling a few prints and would not sell any print that was not printed with pigment inks. You are talking about over ten year old technology here. Many factors go into print degredation---nozzle number, resolution, paper quality, etc. Canon claims 100 year archival quality with the 9000. I hope I live long enough to see the degredation of prints I'm making today! 6D, G9, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma 15mm Fisheye, Sigma 50 2.8 macro, Nikon 14-24G 2.8, Canon 16-35 2.8 II, Canon 24-105 f/4 IS, Canon 70-200 2.8 IS, tripod, lights, other stuff.
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Sep 24, 2011 16:49 | #14 Yep. Also, for instance prints made on an Epson 1400 or 2100 will fade much faster then those made on an 2880... "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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ralff Senior Member 766 posts Joined May 2008 Location: Asheville NC More info | iMO I trust an independent tester much more than claims made by manufacturers. Will helm Institute is considered the best, even by Kodak. I will never print with anything but pigments again....to each his own. Canon 6D - Canon 7D - gripped, Canon 50D - gripped, EFS10-22mm, 17-40 f4 L, nifty-fifty, EF 28-135mm IS, 100-400 f4.5-5.6 L IS USM, Tokina AT-X 100mm f/2.8 ProD Macro, Benbo Trekker, Feisol 3371 w/ Kirk BH-3 ball head - Epson Pic-Mate, Epson 2200, Epson 3880
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