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Sep 21, 2011 12:49 |  #1

Prices have dropped significantly on the Canon 5Dmk2 all over Canada (and some European stores as well)

Vistek, Henry's and I am sure a bunch of other stores are running great prices on the 5Dmk2.

What does buying a 5Dmk2 or such gear from Canada entail for a US buyer? Is the price we see in check out for a US address the price the US buyer pays or are there additional currency conversion fees (from USD to CAD??) and customs duties and taxes involved?

I'm in US and never shopped from a Canadian store before hence the question.

Surprisingly, the prices in the US stores are holding up which is wierd.




  
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Sep 21, 2011 12:58 |  #2

I think the Canadian price are very slow in catching up with the USD. I've been watching the price of the Tokina 11-16 and it's still significantly lower in the US (with the present exchange rate).

I used to live in Vancouver,BC. Which would make a decision to drive across the border and purchase the lens a no brainer. But now that I am living in central Alberta. The option to cross the border is less practical.


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Sep 21, 2011 15:27 |  #3

I am curious to see how it's going to work - cause if US starts to Tax internet purchases in all states - buying big ticket items from Canada may be very common




  
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Sep 21, 2011 15:35 |  #4

Googled a bit and I am finding mixed info.

Basically there are two aspects: 1.Customs Duties, 2. Local state sales tax

On the customs duties part, I am reading mixed info. Some say any camera equipment upto $2000 is excluded (but don't say whether $2000 is USD equivalent or canadian dollar). Other's say excluded all together while many say it depends on the country of origin. It appears that it would attract duties as the camera is not made in Canada, USA or Mexico nor does it have significant content sourced from these 3 countries.

As for local state sales taxes, some say that those would be collected by customs based on the destination zip, others say that USPS will collect the local state sales tax upon delivery while yet others say that there is no local state sales collection effort at all.

It would be great if US buyers with experience of buying large $$ camera equipment from Canada would chime in and share their experiences.

Thanks.




  
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Sep 23, 2011 14:53 |  #5

No one here that's purchased from Henry's (or any other store from Canada) before???




  
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Sep 23, 2011 20:31 |  #6

I just ordered a 5D2 from Henry's earlier today for $2012.94 CAD ($1999.99+12.95 shipping), which turned out to be $2014.89 USD. I just got a shipping notification email with tracking number, etc. and I'm assuming I don't have to do anything else other than get excited when I see a package at my door. USPS will not collect sales tax upon delivery, that's for sure. According to Henry's, it should be here in 5-7 business days.


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Sep 23, 2011 21:52 |  #7

^Keep us updated


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Sep 23, 2011 22:22 |  #8

StephenAndrew wrote in post #13153391 (external link)
I just ordered a 5D2 from Henry's earlier today for $2012.94 CAD ($1999.99+12.95 shipping), which turned out to be $2014.89 USD. I just got a shipping notification email with tracking number, etc. and I'm assuming I don't have to do anything else other than get excited when I see a package at my door. USPS will not collect sales tax upon delivery, that's for sure. According to Henry's, it should be here in 5-7 business days.

Henry's will use the sale price which is C$ 1999 as a declaration of value. Customs translates it into USD equivalent per a conversion rate applicable as of the ship date declared on the customs form. If the $2000 cap for customs duty waiver is true, then it would be close. Shipping costs will not contribute to the valuation.

Problem is it is not clear of the customs duty waiver is capped or not and whether Camera equipment is waived altogether.

The pricing is very attractive and I almost ordered one. I will see what the prices turn out to be after rebate here in US and may risk it if they are higher.

As for taxes - further reading suggests that it's not USPS but customs who might collect state taxes (if applicable to your state) in addition to import duties (if any).

I spoke with Henry's to get more clarity but they plainly said that it is a gray area and customs could see this either way. Basically, they cannot tell!

Hopefully someone else with experience will chime in here.




  
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Sep 24, 2011 01:19 |  #9

juanpafer wrote in post #13153696 (external link)
^Keep us updated

Please do!


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Sep 26, 2011 13:27 as a reply to  @ StarJack's post |  #10

Yes, please keep us informed. I am eying the 24-105mm 5D2 kit




  
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Sep 26, 2011 15:35 |  #11

From the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule, 2011, Section XVIII:

http://www.usitc.gov/t​ata/hts/bychapter/inde​x.htm (external link)

Heading 9006:
Photographic (other than cinematographic) cameras;
photographic flashlight apparatus and flashbulbs other
than discharge lamps of heading 8539; parts and
accessories thereof:

Other cameras:
9006.51.00 With through-the-lens viewfinder (single lens
reflex (SLR)), for roll film of a width not
exceeding 35 mm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Free


The above "Free" is for importation from countries which the US has normal trading relations (e.g. Canada, Japan), and not restricted countries like North Korea.

I should note that the table does not seem to distinguish digital cameras from film SLRs. Probably best to let sleeping dogs lie on that subject.

I interpret that to mean that you can import to your heart's content and not be concerned about import duties.

State sales tax implementation could be a whole other kettle of fish - but will probably not be a factor unless you actively report it.

However, I am not a professional import/export specialist, and the interpretation of government rules isn't always as clear as you might think...

i.e. IMHO, YMMV,

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Sep 26, 2011 16:16 |  #12

Anyone have any thoughts on warranty issues? Would the buyer need to send it back to Canon in Canada for warranty covered service?


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Sep 26, 2011 16:21 |  #13

Oh, and for "Lenses" and "parts and accessories":

9002 Lenses, prisms, mirrors and other optical elements, of
any material, mounted, being parts of or fittings for
instruments or apparatus, other than such elements of
glass not optically worked; parts and accessories
thereof:
Objective lenses and parts and accessories thereof:
9002.11 For cameras, projectors or photographic
enlargers or reducers:
9002.11.90 00 Other
2.3% (note 1/) for "general" category of countries
Free for specified free-trade agreements: (A,AU,BH,CA,CL,E,IL,J,​JO,MA,MX,OM,P,PE,SG)
45% for restricted category of countries


Parts and accessories:
9006.91.00 00 For cameras
5.8% for "general" category of countries
Free for specified free-trade agreements: (A,AU,BH,CA,CL,E,IL,J,​JO,MA,MX,OM,P,PE,SG)
20% for restricted category of countries

The Free-Trade agreement codes are not obvious: "J" stands for the Andean Trade preference Act, for example, not Japan.

And "Filters" is yet another category, at 2% for general, if I'm interpreting it right.

And Flash stuff is still yet another bunch of sub-categories...mostly duty-free.

So...make sure in include a possible 2.3% or 5.8% tariff on lenses and accessories.

Yes, this is complicated, probably for a good reason, though I can't think of one right now...

Again, YMMV, IMHO,

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Sep 26, 2011 16:22 |  #14

smacatl wrote in post #13166599 (external link)
Anyone have any thoughts on warranty issues? Would the buyer need to send it back to Canon in Canada for warranty covered service?

Typically, the Canon DSLRs sold with warranty in Canada also carry USA warranty.

I checked on warranty with Henry's over email and the confirmed this. The Canon DSLR is warrantied in USA too.

That said, I am not sure if all the Canon service centers in USA can honor that warranty or only specific named one(s).




  
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Sep 26, 2011 16:28 |  #15

Thanks a bunch Shinksma for posting the info. That helps quite a bit (although with caution that interpretations could be more complicated than the seemingly obvious).

The 2.3% on lenses jives with what I read elsewhere which is why I am inclined to stay away from the kit, although one still comes out on the top over the USD.




  
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