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Sep 22, 2011 00:19 |  #1

Hey All!

I did a focus stacking project!

I don't want to just repeat what I put into the Macro sub-forum, where there's a fuller version:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1095756

In a nutshell, I took five shots of a spider with my trusty ol' 30D and the old 100mm Macro lens and, after doing some stuff in Lightoom, converted them to tiffs and brought them into my trusty ol' Photoshop CS3, using the Bridge/Tools->Photoshop->Photomerge utility, which loads all the shots in layers, aligns the pixels (this is needed:)), and adds masks,

So, heres a crop of one of the originals:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/138274326/original.jpg

Now, 5 16-bit tiffs layered into one file make a big file, over 238 MegaBytes!

Here's a bit of my workspace, showing the layers and masks -- most of the blacks had been pre-applied by the Photomerge:


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Then, I did the stacking/brushing in she sharpest bits from each image:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/138274324/original.jpg

Not perfect, but not bad for my first time, especially since this was my first Photoshop "serious" project in several years!

I decided to toss on some Smart Sharpening onto the flattened image:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/138274368/original.jpg

Probably overdone -- I wasn't trying for "fancy" just quick, down and dirty:)!

If you want to see even more pics, here's the PBase collection:

http://www.pbase.com …n_the_deck_focu​s_stacking (external link)

Like I said, first attempt, first "work" in Photoshop for a long time!

Let me know what you think!

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Sep 22, 2011 00:59 |  #2

Ease up on the sharpening! Nice photo otherwise :)


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Sep 22, 2011 01:09 |  #3

Hey, thanks Tim, and yeah, the sharpening was just for fun -- if I get motivated, I'll probably just do some of that in Lightroom with a local adjustment sharpening brush!


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Sep 22, 2011 09:03 |  #4

I love this! Very nice!

I tried this once before! But couldn't get it right. Is it completely necessary to have a panning tripod?

Whenever I focused on a different area the "zoom" changed a bit. I don't know if that makes sense, but each shot I took at a different focus plane, depending on how far from the camera it was, the size didn't match. (shot with the 17-85mm USM)

Was this done with a standard tripod / lens?


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Sep 22, 2011 10:14 |  #5

SASman wrote in post #13144608 (external link)
I love this! Very nice!

I tried this once before! But couldn't get it right. Is it completely necessary to have a panning tripod?

Whenever I focused on a different area the "zoom" changed a bit. I don't know if that makes sense, but each shot I took at a different focus plane, depending on how far from the camera it was, the size didn't match. (shot with the 17-85mm USM)

Was this done with a standard tripod / lens?

Thanks!

I shot it with a standard tripod and a 100mm Macro lens.

There is no zoom, although for each shot there was a little "shifting" and so all the shots needed to be aligned. You can do that in Photoshop, but I had a hard time remembering how! But going through Bridge automated the process of stacking the photos and aligning the pixels,

I don't have any of the dedicated stacking software, but it worked with Photoshop!


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Sep 22, 2011 13:00 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #6

I love that shot! I had tried before but lacked the retouching skills, maybe I should give it another go :P




  
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Sep 22, 2011 13:37 |  #7

tonylong wrote in post #13144991 (external link)
There is no zoom, although for each shot there was a little "shifting" and so all the shots needed to be aligned. You can do that in Photoshop, but I had a hard time remembering how! But going through Bridge automated the process of stacking the photos and aligning the pixels,

Thanks! I noticed (it could be the fact that I was using a zoom lens / a non macro lens) that when I changed the plane of focus the "Size" of the image in the view finder would also change. So so hard to explain.

Will give it another shot soon!


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Sep 22, 2011 14:35 |  #8

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I love that shot! I had tried before but lacked the retouching skills, maybe I should give it another go :P

Thanks! I don't do macro very often, or other types of shots that could benefit from this, but one does tire of firing off shots like this and having a too-narrow DOF, so, since this spider tends to stay pretty still for periods of time I figured it'd make a good "test subject"!

Getting the manual focus down does require keeping an eye on the viewfinder while focusing, then I back off and use a cable release to cut back on button-pushing vibration! A sturdy tripod works! I didn't use mirror lockup because I thought my shutter speed was fast enough to not need it, although it was probably borderline at 1/6 sec.

Only three shots out of eight showed a bit of blur viewing at 100%, so having five to work with gave me some good "raw materials"

The work in Photoshop is pretty straghtforward since, as I said, the Photomerge utility does the "hard lifting" of stacking and aligning the layers and then applying masks that are "pre-figured with some black/white areas, although they aren't useful for the actual adjustments you want to make:)!

Here shows actual work I did on one of the layers -- the bottom one had a lot of usable area and the automerge had all the spider in the white area, showing through, so on this second layer I did use Lightroom as a reference and I just painted the white over the parts that showed good detail:


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So, yeah, it takes work on each layer, but it is nice to see it all come together!

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Sep 22, 2011 14:52 |  #9

using the Bridge/Tools->Photoshop->Photomerge utility, which loads all the shots in layers, aligns the pixels (this is needed), and adds masks

So is this different than using the Scripts/Load Files Into Stack thing? That's all I have tried before.


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Sep 22, 2011 15:08 |  #10

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So is this different than using the Scripts/Load Files Into Stack thing? That's all I have tried before.

You know, I didn't try that! That may be what I've used in the past doing exposure blending, I don't recall, but I do know that going through Bridge for Photomerge has worked for me. But I'm so dang out of practice with Photoshop I was just doing some fumbling and bumbling until I got to the proper "starting point" with the Photomerge.

I guess I should probably try that:)!


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Sep 22, 2011 15:13 |  #11

I should note: for a "normal" macro shot like this I'd aim for shooting at f/16, but the light here was a little dim so I shot at f/11, figuring that it would still give me good results for focus stacking. I shot at ISO 200, because at 400 the 30D begins to show some noise at these close crops, and I didn't want to deal with NR concerns. Even then the smooth background did benefit from some Masking and NR in Lightroom, but not enough to mess things up.


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Sep 22, 2011 15:27 |  #12

Well, I already tried it, and it seems to be much more automated that what your doing, and it didn't work. Try it, but I'll be surprised if you get any good results. :)

I'm going to try your way, I just looked in Bridge CS5 and it's there.


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Sep 22, 2011 15:48 |  #13

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Well, I already tried it, and it seems to be much more automated that what your doing, and it didn't work. Try it, but I'll be surprised if you get any good results. :)

I'm going to try your way, I just looked in Bridge CS5 and it's there.

OK, Mitch, I'll give it a shot. What particularly didn't work for you?


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Sep 22, 2011 16:12 |  #14

It was all automated and when it was done, it looked like it hadn't done anything. Been awhile, so I don't remember details.


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Sep 22, 2011 16:21 |  #15

canonloader wrote in post #13146795 (external link)
It was all automated and when it was done, it looked like it hadn't done anything. Been awhile, so I don't remember details.

Hmm, OK, I'll take a look (when I'm motivated to dig into things:)!)...


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