This imac just renewed my passion for editing!

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Numenorean wrote in post #13275719
My PC's are hassle free and last, so you must be having problems with your Mac?

Clearly PC's have 100x the problems of Macs....and you know it......admitting it might be difficult for you being as your a lousy troll....but that is also painfully obvious to us.

Find somewhere else to be an ass.

^^ Let it pass. He might just not use it much.

Bloody hell ladies, take it to the playground.

^^ I love the Brits. Anyone who can come up with two uses for the word bollocks which mean opposite things has my vote. I'm off to look in the boot to see if I left my golf clubs in a car park.

It should be whatever works for you.. none of this MAC v's PC bollocks.

If by budget allows me to purchase a PC that runs the software faster than what I could afford going MAC then simple, I will go with a PC. I have no problems switching if it was the other way around.

Less time in front of a Compter is more time behind the lens.

It is not a war if you remove the emotion from it. It is a box with flashing lights, truly, and in the scheme of life insignificant. There will always be a new-new gizmo.

Rolfe D. Wolfe wrote in post #13275997
Clearly PC's have 100x the problems of Macs....and you know it......admitting it might be difficult for you being as your a lousy troll....but that is also painfully obvious to us.

Find somewhere else to be an ass.

But they don't. Mine don't have problems, never have. Have had 4 PC laptops over the years, all (save the latest which is only a year old now) have lasted at least 5 years before I got a new one.

I'm the one being an ass because you insist that there are problems with my PC's when there are not? I'm simply saying that you can get a faster PC with more storage and larger monitor, etc. for less money so it makes more sense. And with an iMac, what if you want to upgrade to a larger monitor? What if you want to add in another 4 hard drives for RAID? Oh....you can't.

S.Horton wrote in post #13275856
I have made a living on the bleeding edge of the PC for a very long time. Too long.

I could not make a living on the Mac, and I cannot get around the keyboard nearly fast enough to keep pace with my work, but I have been around since Dino DOS and the mainframe before it.

The only thing more stable than a Mac is a midrange or mainframe. The only thing as stable is Linux.

Like I said, I love em both, but I constantly overlook the warts from Microsoft.

What's truly odd is the convergence of the two visually and on the keyboard.

A few years back, a Windows person had trouble adapting to the Mac. Now, they are so very close, it is almost a Microsoft error in a way.

By the by, if you are not using VMWare definitely start. That is how I got my CS5 running on a Mac and on a new laptop without any hassle. It is also how I set up stable environments over time.


Ah, must say, Win7x64 is darn stable. Best since XP SP3 and Server 2003.

I've been around since DOS as well, and the last time that any of my Windows PC's had any sorts of trouble was Windows 98, and even then it was minimal and was driver related. I've been on Win2K, then XP, then Win7 since then with 0 problems.

The cool thing about PC's can also be its downfall. They can be customized any way you want. But then people go and buy $299 computers and expect that they are built with quality - doesn't really have anything to do with the software necessarily when they have problems, but MS gets blamed. I've seen that time and again - cheap, piece of crap hardware or poorly written drivers by hardware companies causing problems.

I've got an home-built i7 Quad PC with 16GB of RAM running Windows 7 Ultimate hooked up to a 30" Apple Cinema Display.

Last I checked, Photoshop and Lightroom works pretty much the same whether it's run on a Mac or PC so this is kind of silly. They are both viable platforms so get over yourselves.

BTW, I leave my PC on for months at a time. Never, ever a problem.

^^ I'm perhaps an odd-ball. I push my platforms to the limit as part of what I do for a living.

I also had a company where we used VMs for every version of every MS OS including the servers, so my perspective may be relatively unique.

And I worked for a few dozen clients, large and small, delivering packaged and custom software plus SaaS, so that provided a zillion 'OMG' moments across desktops, servers, databases, browsers.....

Now, that said, leave your PC on and let Windoze update do something, even just notify. But for Win7, and even on the server editions, I assure you it will take a dump.

I still love 'em both -- PCs I do have more software choices, and I can coax anything to work, eventually.

Mac is closed loop, so if it runs it runs.

I guess it is more like who you date vs. who you marry. Different strokes.

The best part of it all is that now HW is so cheap that we could all have both.

And that you cannot do (legally) with a spouse.

S.Horton wrote in post #13279859
The best part of it all is that now HW is so cheap that we could all have both.

Whenever I purchase parts for a new PC I always make sure the parts are listed in the latest Hackintosh compatibility lists - I always dual boot jic. If I could afford it, I'd have a Mac Pro at home and at the office.

I don't let Windows 7 do automatic updates. I select which updates I want. I can honestly say my machine has never, ever taken a dump. Again, I leave it on months at a time. No issues.

BTW, lots of us are in the I.T. industry. Me as well. So sure, I know the rep Windows has.

My take on Numenorean et al's tiff:

If you take 20 non-computer-savvy people, give 10 of them Macs, and 10 of them PCs, in all likelihood one or two of the Mac users will have problems with their computers vs. at least 5 of the PC users (and probably more.) If you do the same experiment with people who have good computer (and computer security) knowledge, the numbers will be closer to one for the Macs and two for the PCs. A windows machine in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing will be likelier than a Mac to screw up, but not by all that much (especially with Windows 7). But give a Windows box to your grandmother or a teenager with little computer skills but moderate piracy/porn habits, and they're almost certain to run into big issues.

Does that make Macs "computers for dummies?" Perhaps. But they work pretty nicely for non-dummies as well. There are just so many more viruses, bits of malware, bugs, and other nasties out there waiting for incautious PC users.

Personal anecdotes: when I was in college from 2001-2005, literally every one of my friends with a PC had at least one serious crash. And most of these guys/gals knew what they were doing. My own boot camp partitions got royally messed up twice in the XP and Vista (especially Vista) days. However, since installing 7 on my current BC drive, I haven't had a single issue. I still hate the interface, though!

nicksan wrote in post #13282169
I don't let Windows 7 do automatic updates. I select which updates I want. I can honestly say my machine has never, ever taken a dump. Again, I leave it on months at a time. No issues.

BTW, lots of us are in the I.T. industry. Me as well. So sure, I know the rep Windows has.

We have around 10,000 PCs and 3,000 Macs at work - 12.8% PCs went down this year while only 2.6% Macs did. It's been like that for the last few years. When sasser hit the numer of PCs hit 60%. There are some really scary viruses out today and some have no way of being cured.

^^ I love VMWare snapshots; when we had something go really bad, revert, done.