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Sep 26, 2011 05:33 |  #1

I am heading off to Hawaii for a 3 week holiday at the beginning of November and no doubt will take lots (2000 plus) photos with the 7d during that time.

I like the practicality of shooting raw and then being able to fine tune and process the photo to a greater extent that in jpg, but honestly, I really don't look forward to having to process in excess of 2000 photos so that family and friends can immediately view them.

For processing purposes I have an iMac with both Aperture and CS5 installed, but can anyone tell me if the is a quick and efficient way to batch process that many photos so that they can be viewed as jpg's or do I face hours and hours chained to the Mac when I get back to do processing?


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Sep 26, 2011 07:58 |  #2

Use DPP for a quick conversion of the photos you think the F&F will be interested in.
Then take you time time to cull/process the remainder.


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Sep 26, 2011 08:06 as a reply to  @ arkphotos's post |  #3

If you are like most people, your photos will flollow abell curve distribution. A low percent are out and out bad....focus, composition...etc. A low present are the selects. And the largest precent are OK...but not stellar.

On the first review pass, delete the trash and mark the few very good ones worth processing time. Then when you have time, process the few selects. Many of them you can process identically if they were shot at the same location with the same lighting. If Aperture supports batch/bulk processing...use it. ;)




  
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Sep 26, 2011 08:18 |  #4

Why do you not just set. RAW + jpg, page 60 in manual, for quick pre-view after the shoot?




  
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Sep 26, 2011 08:28 as a reply to  @ MCAsan's post |  #5

Select the images in Bridge, then Tools/Photoshop/Image Processor. Adjust as needed.


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Sep 26, 2011 14:32 |  #6

Well, there are three approaches for quick viewing and processing that I can think of. They've each been mentioned, I'll just try to put them together in a nutshell!

One thing to deal with is that when you shoot an image, the camera will apply some processing to produce a jpeg that will have a "pleasing" look, What processing is applied depends on your in-camera settings: Picture Styles influence Contrast, Saturation and Sharpening, some Color considerations, and then an "under the hood curve", and then there are things like White Balance and Noise Reduction and then things like Auto Light Optimizer and other features, none of which are encoded in the Raw data. In most Raw processors all of that is ignored except for the Wite Balance, which can be fairly easily "interpreted".

As a result, the initial "preview" of a Raw file in Raw processors will be different from an out-of-camera jpeg, and that throws a lot of people off -- they want the "pop" of a jpeg, and they want it now!

So, if you want the pop of a jpeg right away, then your options:

If you shoot Raw+jpeg, you can store the jpegs in a "quick view" folder and you can then check them out in any image viewer. Make sure you have your in-camera Picture Style set appropriately for the scene, and that you have fine-tuned your Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness, and White Balance/Color Tones if needed, and then you will have jpegs that will have a decent "pop".

The problem with this is having to deal with jpeg "copies", and you will likely want to put your Raw files into a different folder so that they won't "get in the way" of your jpeg viewing, but at least you will have good, quick access to those jpegs.

Another approach is also quick, but requires the use of the Canon software, either ZoomBrowser for just viewing the Raw shots, or Digital Photo Professional (DPP) for both viewing and processing the Raw files. DPP is, in my opinion, the best for this because you can use it to quickly convert a Raw into a jpeg. But, there is an advantage to ZoomBrowser in that it only "sees" the "embedded" jpeg in the Raw file, meaning that it can give you a quick view. DPP on the other hand starts out by processing the Raw data to give you a "true" rendering of the Raw (with your in-camera settings applied to that preview).

Now, if you consider that last bit, you will see the very nice feature about DPP -- even though it is working with the Raw data, it applies those in-camera settings, so that what you see in the DPP preview is a "jpeg-like" image, very nice for a quick view, and then with DPP you could also offer a quick jpeg that will have the "stuff", the pop! Very nifty for that, although it does require the step of using Convert and Save or Batch processing, and also it involves the "rendering" process to view the preview, which can take time when you are dealing with a folder with a "bunch" of Raw photos. That is a consideration when you are trying to show friends/family a batch of Raw shots, and so makes ZoomBrowser or Raw+jpeg a real consideration.

Now, if you are going to stick with Photoshop CS5 (or Lightrooom or Aperture), then you have to realize that when it comes to showing previews, these are "Raw only" in that they won't show the embedded jpeg like ZoomBrowser, and they won't apply the in-camera Picture Style and the other settings. As a result, you won't get the "jpeg pop" look, but rather the built-in processing of the chosen software that will likely tend to look a bit "muted".

Like I said, that tends to throw people off when they are getting started!

And, the other Raw processors, like DPP, use the Raw data to develop a preview, so a "quick viewing" will be slower than a batch of jpegs...

But, in the same way that DPP gives you the ability to work with and process the Raw files, so do the other Raw processors. And, with the other processors, even though you start with a "muted" look, you can quickly determing "what works" with one file, and apply that to a batch of files. With Adobe Camera Raw, you can choose a Calibration "profile", and then whatever adjustments work to give it some "pop", and then apply those settings to a batch of files that have similar requirements, then if you wish do whatever cropping or tweaks on individual image, and from there you can use Bridge and either Export or Image Processing to dump out finished jpegs, and there you go!

So, is there a "best" way? Well, that's really up to you! I would personally prefer to come back each evening and dump my Raw shots into a laptop, and then run them through my Raw processor -- I use Lightroom, but occasionally for the "quick" stuff I use DPP. Then, each evening I'd have only the jpegs that I want to "show", and they would be typically at a "Web viewing" size. From there I'd use my camera to format my card, and I'm ready for tomorrow!

Backup would be another consideration. What if the laptop dies? Well, that is certainly a consideration! Three approaches would be 1) having enough high-capacity memory card that you could set one aside without formatting once it's full, 2) having a portable external drive or other device that can store all your shots (while having your "working library" on the laptop, or 3) burning each day's shooting on DVDs. Then you can choose whether to keep the DVDs in say, a motel room. Or, some folks go the step of mailing/shipping their disks "home", to someone who can receive them and then, well, whatever.

Well, 'nough said from me:)!


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Sep 26, 2011 23:10 |  #7

Thanks for the input and advice folks, it is greatly appreciated.

Yes, I realise I can shoot both raw and jpeg simultaneously, but I originally didn't wish to go down this path due to the size of the combined files. Even though I have a combined total of around 70 gig in CF cards, I felt they would fill quickly during the trip if I were to shoot both formats.

However, with that being said, I never honestly contemplated taking my lap-top with me on holidays, but I now I see the true advantage of doing so. It will enable me to shoot both formats (raw and jpeg) and I will then be able to download the photos onto the laptop during the night when we are back at the hotel. I can then format the CF card ready for the next day's shooting.

I imagine I will still have to do a fair bit of processing when I get back home, but I suppose that is the price we pay for being photography enthusiasts.


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Sep 26, 2011 23:14 |  #8

Well, that works except for the backup problem -- as in if your laptop dies or malfunctions! You might consider the idea of going through one card at a time and only reformatting one if you run out of card space...?


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