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Sep 27, 2011 16:05 |  #1

I was wondering what filters or polarized filters could I use to make the sky on some my pictures look brighter or more vivid.
Sometimes they look pale compare to the scene I'm looking at.
Specially on a very sunny day.Sometimes they are nice, it depends of the environnement!

I just got a Tokina wide angle lens, a 11-16 and I noticed while looking on the web for suggestions on filters, that specially not to use polarized lens, since they make the pics a bit blurry or something like that.

Anyone can feed me the truth about it?




  
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Sep 27, 2011 16:09 |  #2

Sounds like you're looking for a grad ND (graduated neutral density filter). And yes you should take care when using polarizers with wide-angle lenses because they can cause dark bands in the sky.


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Sep 27, 2011 16:18 |  #3

Because the wide angle takes a really wide FOV, the Circular Polarizer causes banding due to it being most effective at 90 degrees from the sun.

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That said, I've actually had great sky coming SOOC from the Tokina 11-16. Or maybe just bump blue saturation up a little in post?

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Sep 27, 2011 16:19 |  #4

Your best bet at the time the shot is taken will be a graduated neutral density filter... a large rectangular filter held in front of the lens in a bracket: half of it clear, half of it about two stops worth of neutral gray. Slide it up or down and turn it as needed to match the horizon line in your shot.

The reason your skies are looking washed out is because they are so much brighter than your foreground and the rest of the scene. The graduated filter balances the exposure.

A standard ND or neutral density filter will simply reduce the light from the entire scene, and your metering system will correct for that... you'll end up right back where you started from.

A polarizer tends to look blotchy or uneven on very wide lenses, because the effect is strongest 90 degrees from the sun and the lens takes in such a wide expanse that it's simply bound to be uneven.

Another approach would be to take two exposures... one for the fore and middleground of the scene, the other for the sky. Then strip the two together in Photoshop. You actually can do something similar by double processing a single RAW file, once for the sky, once for the rest of the scene, and stripping those two images together in PS. Sometimes these are the best technique, such as when you have a very uneven horizon.


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Sep 27, 2011 16:26 |  #5

amfoto1 wrote in post #13172625 (external link)
Your best bet at the time the shot is taken will be a graduated neutral density filter... a large rectangular filter held in front of the lens in a bracket: half of it clear, half of it about two stops worth of neutral gray. Slide it up or down and turn it as needed to match the horizon line in your shot.

The reason your skies are looking washed out is because they are so much brighter than your foreground and the rest of the scene. The graduated filter balances the exposure.

A standard ND or neutral density filter will simply reduce the light from the entire scene, and your metering system will correct for that... you'll end up right back where you started from.

A polarizer tends to look blotchy or uneven on very wide lenses, because the effect is strongest 90 degrees from the sun and the lens takes in such a wide expanse that it's simply bound to be uneven.

Another approach would be to take two exposures... one for the fore and middleground of the scene, the other for the sky. Then strip the two together in Photoshop. You actually can do something similar by double processing a single RAW file, once for the sky, once for the rest of the scene, and stripping those two images together in PS. Sometimes these are the best technique, such as when you have a very uneven horizon.

Thank guys, I will proceed in that direction, gee, it's a good thing that I love taking pics, it does'nt matter how long it takes, the results are always beautiful!




  
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Sep 27, 2011 16:27 |  #6

I wonder if there's any creative way to use that banding???

I'm kinda thinking a 100+ degree fisheye at a stormy beach would make for interesting snaps...


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Sep 27, 2011 17:04 |  #7

Paolo.Leviste wrote in post #13172655 (external link)
I'm kinda thinking a 100+ degree fisheye at a stormy beach would make for interesting snaps...

Unlikely there would be enough sunlight at a stormy beach for a polariser to have much effect I'd have thought?


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Sep 27, 2011 17:08 |  #8

Sirrith wrote in post #13172789 (external link)
Unlikely there would be enough sunlight at a stormy beach for a polariser to have much effect I'd have thought?

Change stormy for a sky with clouds swirling about but letting sunlight through? ;)

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