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Rolfe ­ D. ­ Wolfe
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Sep 28, 2011 13:40 |  #1

I just sold my Sony Handy Cam camcorder and have some extra cash and want to buy an accesorry.

The two options have come down to-

Old 420EX speedlight

or the nifty fifty 1.8

Obv the nifty fifty has rave reviews and is a great step up from the kit lens.

The old speedlight is the only one in my price range right now.

I can't find one new lol so id be buying used to a new lens....

not that used gear is an issue.

Plenty of the 420 on ebay.

So what would you do?

i feel like the flash will help much more overall and i should just hold out for the 50?


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Sep 28, 2011 13:44 |  #2

I would go for the flash. Just make sure it is a 420EX, not a 420EZ. (big difference)


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Sep 28, 2011 14:17 |  #3

Agreed and save for the 1.4 much nicer




  
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Sep 28, 2011 14:30 |  #4

Get the nifty fifty, and something like a YN-560 for the flash. Maybe even the .. what is it, the YN-468 that supports ETTL?


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Sep 28, 2011 14:42 |  #5

It really depends on what you like to shoot, which you don't mention...



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Sep 28, 2011 14:42 as a reply to  @ nathancarter's post |  #6

Nissin has good one as well, which supports Canon.
Used 622Di, should cost around 100 or less.


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Sep 28, 2011 14:53 |  #7

You will use the flash more than you will use the 50mm.

Fast glass is nice, but there is absolutely no substitute for proper lighting. Believe it.




  
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Sep 28, 2011 15:03 as a reply to  @ kf095's post |  #8

I also think it depends on what you're shooting.

I'm a newbie, but I do have the 420EX and my wife has a nifty fifty I can use. I find myself wishing I had her 50mm with me more often. I can't use the flash everywhere (not allowed/appropriate, or the space is too large), so the 50mm would be better.

However, I'm surprised at what I'm able to do with the flash - without really knowing how to use it. :) This is mainly when I'm shooting inside the house with my 60mm macro, but it will work with your current lenses too.

I just set the camera to manual, shutter speed to 1/250, ISO to 100, and set the aperture at whatever I want from 2.8 to 5.6 I think, and I get pretty good exposures I think. Setting the aperture much smaller than 5.6 begins to give underexposed shots.

As I said, I don't know what I'm doing with the flash - but what I say above works well enough for me right now.

However I'll say that my sister's wedding is this weekend. The wedding is outside, and the reception is in a barn. I haven't seen the inside of the barn, but I expect bad lighting, and a high (and probably brown) ceiling. This all means that I probably won't get much use out of my flash (though I'll try). But, I'm sure the nifty fifty will come in handy. But, my wife will probably be using it. :(

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Sep 28, 2011 15:21 as a reply to  @ nathancarter's post |  #9

Thanks for the responses guys!

Ya right now im shooting everything lol.

Im not sure what im better at and im just trying to learn as much as i can so the flash is probably a better choice since i need to start experimenting with real flash, not built in flash.

Most, though, of what i shoot, is portraits and urban stuff i guess.


Also close friends of ours asked me to shoot pictures of her kids for her holiday card....so i think the flash will come in handy more then having a 18-55kit and 50mm and NO flash lol.

Thanks everyone!


And yes it is the 420ex not ez.


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Sep 28, 2011 15:34 as a reply to  @ Rolfe D. Wolfe's post |  #10

Personally, I didn't like the nifty fifty. Had one for a while and then sold it. Was too soft for my liking.

Flash will open up a LOT of possibilities (if you don't already have a flash). It opens a can of worms about re-learning some things you already may know but it's so worth it. I used to not shoot flash very often but, since I started shooting, I usually shoot with flash if at all possible.




  
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Sep 28, 2011 16:25 |  #11

I bought the 50mm, a 70-200 and tripod all before I bought a 430ex II.
I wish I would have gotten the flash right from the start.
Being able to control the light is everything.

Ettl is okay, but if you learn how to work manual flash, you can really work it to your advantage. :)


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Sep 28, 2011 18:30 |  #12

Viva-photography wrote in post #13178051 (external link)
I bought the 50mm, a 70-200 and tripod all before I bought a 430ex II.
I wish I would have gotten the flash right from the start.
Being able to control the light is everything.

Ettl is okay, but if you learn how to work manual flash, you can really work it to your advantage. :)


Ya that is why im going to get the flash.

The 50 will always be around, but i want to start learning flash so i can use it to understand other areas of this hobby lol.


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Sep 28, 2011 18:34 |  #13

Another vote here for the flash RDW. It opens up SO MANY opportunities.


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Sep 28, 2011 18:49 |  #14

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Another vote here for the flash RDW. It opens up SO MANY opportunities.

rdw??


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Sep 28, 2011 18:51 |  #15

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I too vote flash gun. Though I don't use mine often, I really should start doing so...


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