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Thread started 03 Oct 2011 (Monday) 16:21
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POLL: "What is your individual annual income?"
<$25,000
52
15%
$25,001 - $50,000
70
20.2%
$50,001 - $75,000
66
19.1%
$75,001 - $100,000
51
14.7%
$100,001 - $150,000
55
15.9%
$150,001 - $200,000
24
6.9%
>$200,000
28
8.1%

346 voters, 346 votes given (1 choice only choices can be voted per member)). VOTING IS FOR MEMBERS ONLY.
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What is the average individual income of members here?

 
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Oct 03, 2011 16:21 |  #1

I'm just curious. What is the average individual income of photographers, both paid professionals and unpaid amateurs, on this forum? How is it that we fund our obsession?

I know this isn't a statistically sound survey. Debated whether to ask for household income or individual. I thought it'd be more interesting to ask for individual... Plus, people's income will change over time and I'm not putting a limit on this poll. Just sort of want to see a bar graph showing a bell curve or where the outliers are.

Then people can add color to their vote by posting some more detailed information, e.g. I collected plastic bottles and recycled aluminum cans to pay for my tripod... or I'm a poor college student who used a scholarship surplus to pay for my 60D... or I'm a stay at home dad, but I betrothed my youngest daughter to the son of a Canon merchant so I get free gear until she turns 18. :lol:

If you wish to maintain anonymity, perhaps wait for some votes before posting a response. :p

EDIT: I AM NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO VOTE. THAT'S WAAAAAAAY ABOVE MY SALARY.


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Oct 03, 2011 18:42 |  #2

Took out a loan from my parents about 4 years ago to grab my first stuff (and working at a camera store, the initial money took me a lot farther than normal; the extra BP-511s at the time cost me $8.02).

Between then and getting married, I would just save a week or two, and buy what I needed.

After getting married, I (unfortunately) voluntarily became more responsible for what gear I buy/think I need. The last time I bought a lens (the little EF-mount Holga, as I couldn't resist having it to my door for under $30), I told the wife, and she just looked at me like a cow looks at an oncoming train, and, very sweetly, asked "can you still afford the rent?" That girl practically thinks I'm loony for debating instead of buynig! :lol:


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Oct 03, 2011 19:23 |  #3

I traded one red paperclip...


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Oct 03, 2011 19:45 |  #4

It's a tough poll because it has really nothing to do with disposable income..... and the family component is tough. The second salary can really add a lot to the equation, but disposable income is the real kicker. My wife strangely thinks we need to save a ton of money for retirement or something so I get an allowance :) Let's just say it'll take me a REALLY long time to save up for some of the expensive glass, especially since I have a pretty bad golf club buying habit I'm working on curing and a jeep that I like to throw money into....


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Oct 03, 2011 19:47 |  #5

Heh! Back when I actually had a job with an income, I was muddling along into photography, a bit at a time. Then things changed through a combination of things, I found myself making good money and also my love for photography was growing, and my collection of gear grew along with it.

Well, fortunes changed and now, well, I squeak by financially, and no longer dump money into the hobby. Fortunately, I am quite content with the gear I collected "back then":)!


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Oct 03, 2011 20:27 |  #6

Another paid hobby (music) pays for all my gear. All I have to do is show up, play guitar and sing, take pictures during my downtime at the event and they give me enough money to buy gear on occasion.

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Oct 03, 2011 20:34 as a reply to  @ snyderman's post |  #7

I make a lot of money, unfortunately I can't seem to keep any of it. My partners (The Bank, Uncle Sam, The Kids School & the Supermarket) have their fingers on my wallet. They can pick my pocket faster than a grifter on the Bowery.


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Oct 03, 2011 21:34 |  #8

highergr0und wrote in post #13201200 (external link)
It's a tough poll because it has really nothing to do with disposable income.

I know it's a tough poll. It's imperfect. It's often said on this forum that photography is not exactly a poor man's hobby. I just wanted to get a sense of how true that is.

After I got married, when and how I spend my money has changed entirely. My rent's gone up 4-fold because I want my wife to be comfortable. All the while, we're trying to save up for a down payment. My income's increased, but my spending has decreased since bachelorhood.

Disposable income is very subjective. I just wanted to get a sense of where people objectively were. Another poll could ask what the household income is and even provide for deductions for each child... but I don't think that would provide much more insight. Rather, I think it's more interesting to see how people prioritize their spending or how they supplement the income to pay for the hobby (or profession, as the case may be).


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Oct 03, 2011 21:56 |  #9

Something is wrong with the setup of this poll. Voters name didn't show up by the income ;)


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Oct 03, 2011 22:44 |  #10

hrmm a bit surprised that > 35% is reporting an income of 100K+


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Oct 04, 2011 06:22 as a reply to  @ BaghdadFred's post |  #11

In commercial sales, last year was a bustout year. This year, it has reversed.

The only thing I can think is that last year people thought hey, it's a bad economy but things will improve but this year it's more like hey, it's a bad economy, it's not improving, and it actually looks like it may get worse. As a result, budgets have not only been reduced, but some were completely eliminated.


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Oct 04, 2011 14:53 |  #12

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #13202797 (external link)
The only thing I can think is that last year people thought hey, it's a bad economy but things will improve but this year it's more like hey, it's a bad economy, it's not improving, and it actually looks like it may get worse. As a result, budgets have not only been reduced, but some were completely eliminated.

Interesting observation. Have people cut back on their spending on photography due to the economy lagging as bad as it has?

My reason for cutting back is because I got married. If I hadn't, I might still buy more.


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Oct 04, 2011 15:03 |  #13

Nathan wrote in post #13204733 (external link)
Interesting observation. Have people cut back on their spending on photography due to the economy lagging as bad as it has?

My reason for cutting back is because I got married. If I hadn't, I might still buy more.

Yeah its all pillow shams, bedding plants and matching towels for you now.


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Oct 04, 2011 15:06 |  #14

I work in IT (Senior Linux Administrator), and am the breadwinner for my household... (wife, and two dogs).

I pay all the bills, she buys the food and our maintenance groceries... We're a team so we discuss large purchases -- which is a good thing, cause I'm a compulsive spender and can burn through my fun money very quickly.


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Oct 04, 2011 15:23 |  #15

I guess I'm the breadwinner... never thought of myself as that. After I got married, the sister-in-law moved in. It's the 3 of us. Yay. I pay all the bills, my wife buys the food and other household expenses. I'll fight for the restaurant bill. Sister-in-law pays nothing. Yes, I'm a little bitter... especially since she says she'll never move out.

Anyway... I'm an expensive shopper. I don't shop much, but when I do it's for high priced items. Suits, shoes, coats... that sort of thing. She shops more than I do, but buys the cheaper purses, scarves... good thing she can't buy shoes cause she's a size 5.

I don't have to discuss with her my big purchases... but I do anyway.

st3venb wrote in post #13204792 (external link)
I work in IT (Senior Linux Administrator), and am the breadwinner for my household... (wife, and two dogs).

I pay all the bills, she buys the food and our maintenance groceries... We're a team so we discuss large purchases -- which is a good thing, cause I'm a compulsive spender and can burn through my fun money very quickly.


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