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Thread started 03 Oct 2011 (Monday) 16:21
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POLL: "What is your individual annual income?"
<$25,000
52
15%
$25,001 - $50,000
70
20.2%
$50,001 - $75,000
66
19.1%
$75,001 - $100,000
51
14.7%
$100,001 - $150,000
55
15.9%
$150,001 - $200,000
24
6.9%
>$200,000
28
8.1%

346 voters, 346 votes given (1 choice only choices can be voted per member)). VOTING IS FOR MEMBERS ONLY.
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Aug 18, 2013 06:36 as a reply to  @ post 13204856 |  #76

Less than $25,000 but passion for photography is priceless... LOL


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Aug 18, 2013 09:37 |  #77

I started my current job (Railroad) of 35 years when I was 19. Out of high school less than a year. I worked hard and climbed the proverbial corporate ladder and made tons of money. Enough to pay cash for two college University educations for my daughters and most recently an Ireland wedding for the oldest. I also have what will amount to be the cost of a wedding saved for the youngest one. Now as I look forward to retirement I cant help but look at the kids (young adults) today and see how hard they have it. Even college graduates that cant find a job. It's a tough world out there and I feel for them. What I've done cant really be done in today's world. I've always felt lucky very appreciative and as if I had won a life's lottery. I picked up Photography as a hobby and possibley to try a little freelance work when I do retire. And, if I sell nothing well then that's OK too.


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Aug 18, 2013 14:12 |  #78

My 2 horses seem to eat all of my money so I got my fiance into photography = he buys "our" equipment (especially if I go find a lens and say "honey, look how cheap this is? It will do x,z and z") although I've not convinced him to buy me a 1d series yet.




  
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Aug 18, 2013 15:13 |  #79
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I've earned a miserly £23 in the past 12 months




  
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jonneymendoza
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Aug 18, 2013 15:29 |  #80

BaghdadFred wrote in post #13201921 (external link)
hrmm a bit surprised that > 35% is reporting an income of 100K+

Im now in that bracket now after becoming a freelance contractor as a software programmer.

We make lots as a contractor then a perm


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Aug 18, 2013 21:47 as a reply to  @ jonneymendoza's post |  #81

I must admit I'm not too surprised at the poll numbers, they look very reasonable to me. The only thing that surprised me was that is looks like a good number and cross-section of people actually voted. I think its good that there is a diversity of people on this forum and I think the poll shows it (assuming the numbers are approximately correct).

It's also good for both those not earning much to realize that there are probably some people who are not A-holes making 200K+. There is also obviously a young crowd on this forum, probably not earning their full potential and probably plenty for whom earning more is not a priority in life.

I remember in College 15 years ago thinking $50k/year was an absolute boatload of cash. And while I realize it still is to many people, with a wife, house and 3 kids it would be tough (I'm in the over 50k but well under 200k bracket).


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Aug 19, 2013 08:17 |  #82

kkissofgold wrote in post #16218804 (external link)
I got my fiance into photography = he buys "our" equipment (especially if I go find a lens and say "honey, look how cheap this is? It will do x,z and z") although I've not convinced him to buy me a 1d series yet.

LOL. That's hilarious... but I can't help but feel sorry for the fiance!

jonneymendoza wrote in post #16218993 (external link)
We make lots as a contractor then a perm

As a contractor, I'm assuming you have to budget for taxes and healthcare yourself. That's got to put in a dent.


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Sep 15, 2013 15:03 |  #83

Well 7360 USD. (Yes that is the yearly income.)


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jonneymendoza
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Sep 15, 2013 15:40 |  #84

Nathan wrote in post #16220883 (external link)
LOL. That's hilarious... but I can't help but feel sorry for the fiance!



As a contractor, I'm assuming you have to budget for taxes and healthcare yourself. That's got to put in a dent.

I get taxed less as a contractor and we get free health care in the UK


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Sep 16, 2013 10:27 |  #85

dhornick wrote in post #16218196 (external link)
I started my current job (Railroad) of 35 years when I was 19. Out of high school less than a year. I worked hard and climbed the proverbial corporate ladder and made tons of money. Enough to pay cash for two college University educations for my daughters and most recently an Ireland wedding for the oldest. I also have what will amount to be the cost of a wedding saved for the youngest one. Now as I look forward to retirement I cant help but look at the kids (young adults) today and see how hard they have it. Even college graduates that cant find a job. It's a tough world out there and I feel for them. What I've done cant really be done in today's world. I've always felt lucky very appreciative and as if I had won a life's lottery. I picked up Photography as a hobby and possibley to try a little freelance work when I do retire. And, if I sell nothing well then that's OK too.

^^^

  • When I graduated from college, my first job paid $12000; when I was a freshman, my tuition at a private university in CA cost $1200 per year. So my first job paid 10*[freshman year tuition]. Today annual tuition at the same university is $38.5K, and no one in their right mind could expect to earn a starting salary of $385000 !
  • Put into a different perspective, my starting salary after university was 34285*[price of a gallon of gas]. Using the national average price of gas (rather than the higher amount paid in CA), a graduate with a bachelor's degree would need to earn $120000 in his/her first year.
  • A friend from college has two sons, both now with Masters degrees. Today, one is trying to sell real estate, and the other is a personal trainer at a fitness center, because both could not otherwise find permanent jobs after college for years after graduation or even after going back to graduate school because their undergrad degree didn't seem to do any good!
  • The 50% unemployment rate of undergrads that was mentioned during the height of the recession even plagues those with advanced degrees. If you do not attend one of the top law schools and also graduate in the upper tiers of your law school class, you are likely to be one of the 50% of graduating attorneys without a job offer from an established firm.
  • During the height of the recession a few year ago, even a newly graduating person with an RN (registered nurse) might go over a year before getting a job offer. Two different couples who my wife and I know both had daughters graduate with RN degrees and unable of find jobs for that much time or more.
When I was early in my career, I could periodically move to new jobs, thereby increasing my earning power faster than staying for decades at the same company. Young adults today can't even start to get a respectable job, much less grow their earning power more rapidly by moving to new jobs. So not only are they NOT earning now, but their total career production of income is stunted because of loss of growth in their early work years.

I was forced into retirement 4 years earlier than I intended, because after being laid off I could not find another job at or near that level of responsibility and pay. I couldn't even get the same job that I had at a company 9 years earlier; direct experience in that exact position didn't count because (like so many others of my peers have discovered) Ben Bernanke's statement in 2010 was true..."If you are over 50 and you just lost your job, it is likely that will have been you LAST job!" So the two ends of the working population -- those starting, and those at the ends of their careers -- are being pinched.
(I hope I remember this statistic correctly...) Silicon Valley was said to have no more jobs in 2010 than it had in 1995; another statistic showed 50K fewer jobs in 2008 than in 1997 in Silicon Valley, in spite of a population growth of 20% in that same period. So 20% more of the population goes without jobs then (2007), than 10 years earlier! A significant contributor to lack of growth is that while Silicon Valley headquartered companies grew, the jobs were largely offshore.

And adults are underemployed at fastfood joints, earning minimum wage which gets them on 85% of the Federally defined Poverty Level income (family of 3), rather than leaving those jobs to high school kids who just want to earn a bit of spending money!

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Sep 16, 2013 10:34 |  #86

The wife and I make a fair living together. All the money goes in one pot to pay the bills and we discuss and agree on any purchase over $100. The hard part is living in Maryland where our liberal leaders have hiked the taxes to near 30% overall, plus federal taxes. Makes it hard to have pocket money for hobbies when taxes and inflation are on the rise but salaries aren't.


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