5D2 and Auto ISO

In manual mode, I would love to able to set the shutter wherever I like as well as the aperture and have the auto ISO be able to adjust itself to wherever is necessary for a proper exposure, and not have this max ISO 400 limit

I like to hand-hold my shots and no lower than 1/125 sec, it seems strange (Sucks really) that Canon won't allow me to set a minimum shutter speed with auto-ISO.

Is the technology not there for this to be possible or am I missing a setting somewhere?

The manual on page 58 says that in M or Bulb mode the Auto ISO is "Fixed at ISO 400". In P/Av/Tv modes it ranges from ISO 100-3200.

If I were shooting in Manual, I'd personally prefer to not be using Auto ISO at all (I don't use the "Safety Shift" with my 1DM3). But, a limit of 400 in M mode isn't that bothersome, although if you really want it to jump up to, say, 3200 when you are in M, then I guess you're out of luck!

Nikon has that feature. I don't see why Canon could not impliment it too

tonylong wrote in post #13200555
The manual on page 58 says that in M or Bulb mode the Auto ISO is "Fixed at ISO 400". In P/Av/Tv modes it ranges from ISO 100-3200.

If I were shooting in Manual, I'd personally prefer to not be using Auto ISO at all (I don't use the "Safety Shift" with my 1DM3). But, a limit of 400 in M mode isn't that bothersome, although if you really want it to jump up to, say, 3200 when you are in M, then I guess you're out of luck!

Yes, in P/Av/Tv modes the ISO has full range, but of course you either give up shutter or aperture control, which stinks. When walking on vacation last week I would run into situations where the light varied quite dramatically, and I got tired of constantly fiddling with the settings. I just thought why in the world would they not just allow the camera to have full ISO range in Manual mode with auto ISO enabled? I like doing street candid photography at f/5.6-8.0 as soon as I got some cloud coverage the 400 limit in auto just wasn't enough for proper exposure.

buy2ls wrote in post #13200585
Nikon has that feature. I don't see why Canon could not impliment it too

^^THIS. Just another reason why I seriously consider crossing over to the dark side every day.

buy2ls wrote in post #13200585
Nikon has that feature. I don't see why Canon could not impliment it too

This. If you want to do this you'll need to use Nikon.

markol wrote in post #13200647
This. If you want to do this you'll need to use Nikon.

Yep. I just read on the Nikon site...

"
As an example, let’s say you are shooting outdoors at a wedding and you have your camera manually set to a low ISO setting of 100 because there is plenty of light available. Then as you follow the bridal party indoors where the light level is much lower, your camera’s exposure meter indicates it will require a slower shutter speed (and/or wider aperture) to achieve correct exposure. Rather than having to manually change the ISO to make the camera more sensitive for this lower light level, the AUTO ISO feature will automatically adjust the ISO setting up to obtain correct exposure for the new lighting conditions.
The exact minimum shutter speed setting where this “jump” to a higher ISO takes place can be set on most Nikon digital SLR cameras using the AUTO ISO control in the Custom Setting menu of your camera. For example, you may want to shoot at a fixed ƒ/stop and the lowest ISO possible until a shutter speed of 1/15th of a second is required to make a proper exposure. In a programmed exposure mode the camera will continue dropping the shutter speed lower and lower until the 1/15th is reached and then AUTO ISO will automatically increase the ISO upward to keep a good exposure. The camera will continue to increase the ISO setting upward until it reaches the “Max.” setting you’ve chosen in the camera’s AUTO ISO menu, or to a maximum of 1600 ISO.
This is a big advantage to any photographer who often manually changes the ISO settings as the light quickly changes since it allows full concentration on the subject rather than the camera controls. If you return to an area where the light level increases, the camera will automatically drop the ISO setting again to the lowest setting possible for the light level you are now shooting in."

Now honestly, why in the world would Canon not have the feature this customizable on a $3,000 camera?

markol wrote in post #13200647
This. If you want to do this you'll need to use Nikon.

Or use the newest crop bodies or 1D4, all of which have much better auto-ISO modes, with the 1D4 having the rest of the features of minimum shutter settings, safety modes, etc. No need to switch manufacturers to get this.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #13201064
Or use the newest crop bodies or 1D4, all of which have much better auto-ISO modes, with the 1D4 having the rest of the features of minimum shutter settings, safety modes, etc. No need to switch manufacturers to get this.

I had the 7D, great cam but I'm done with 1.6x format. A 1D4 you say? no problem...I'll grab one tomorrow! I think I got $4K laying around here somewhere

Well if you go for a $3000 body that has subpar auto-ISO and limited AF capabilities, what's another $1K to fix all of that?

Plus the automatic press pass that comes with that camera, a monopod and a big white lens.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #13201171
Well if you go for a $3000 body that has subpar auto-ISO and limited AF capabilities, what's another $1K to fix all of that?

Plus the automatic press pass that comes with that camera, a monopod and a big white lens.

True. Help a brother out...you wanna buy a lightly used 5D2 to accompany that beast you have?

markol wrote in post #13200647
This. If you want to do this you'll need to use Nikon.

Not True. 7D and 1dmkIV has the feature. Ive used auto iso on the 5D2 and it works pretty good considering. I use it all the time in AV and TV mode when lighting is mixed and it does a great job. TV mode it shines. Especially for sports when you dont need 15k FPS. Try it. It works pretty good.

umphotography wrote in post #13201227
Not True. 7D has the feature. Ive used auto iso on the 5D2 and it works pretty good considering. I use it all the time in AV and TV mode when lighting is mixed and it does a great job. TV mode it shines. Especially for sports when you dont need 15k FPS. Try it. It works pretty good.

Were talking FF here...

I know the 7D has it. I don't want another 7D, I want a Full Frame camera that allows me to set the minimum shutter and utilizes auto ISO past 400 in manual mode. I honestly didn't realize the 5D2 had this stupid limitation before I bought it.

10megapixel wrote in post #13201244
Were talking FF here...

I know the 7D has it. I don't want another 7D, I want a Full Frame camera that allows me to set the minimum shutter and utilizes auto ISO past 400 in manual mode. I honestly didn't realize the 5D2 had this stupid limitation before I bought it.

The 5D3 will have this all fixed up to be more like the 550D/60D. Just save up and wait.

10megapixel wrote in post #13201244
Were talking FF here...

I know the 7D has it. I don't want another 7D, I want a Full Frame camera that allows me to set the minimum shutter and utilizes auto ISO past 400 in manual mode. I honestly didn't realize the 5D2 had this stupid limitation before I bought it.

Hmm...well, if it's that much of a dealbreaker, then just go your own way! It's obviously a feature that is relatively new, so complaining about the 3-year-old 5D2 not having all the features that are now in newer bodies, well, I'd say that the 5D3 will have interesting things to offer...