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Oct 11, 2011 23:32 |  #16

Anyone know if there will be a Nikon version of the Odin?




  
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Oct 12, 2011 07:30 |  #17

I bought 2 set of phottix Odin + 4 extra recievers (not all pictured ). cost Php 58T about Php 43 / USD 1...

my complains ( more on missing features ):
1. more than +2 on flash compensation.... ( I would like to see +7! )
2. No +1/3 EV on manual power setting... manual power setting of flash (1/8 +1/3.. 1/4 +2/3.... )
3. No Sync port on transmitter ( TCU ) so we can use to sync even if non canon body units.. non - ETTL of course.. As in like the strato II...
4. 1 dead tcu then the set is useless ... the recievers can't be triggered by the strato II transmitter which is a shame.

Pros:
Reliable according to my short test.
ETTL is accurate too.
Range is better than PW ( according to other users test )

this is a must for ETTL users.

Btw, I've already tried the new firmware. it's the same firmware the odin that I got. Seems that the firmware was for the old odin's that was released before the official launch.

Regarding the ODIN... The distributor of Phottix in my country said there will soon be a nikon version. Just don't know when...


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OK those who are interested in its features... any request for me to test? Any questions? I only have 580ex2s! so I can't comment on third party flashes....

Let the questions begin :D

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Oct 12, 2011 08:49 |  #18

Very cool... thanks for the quick write up Aero.


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Oct 12, 2011 09:47 |  #19

Aero, nice points.

Questions/Comments: -

1. Regarding +2 FEC, is it the camera or the trigger limiting it? Also +7 FEC won't do anyting if flash is already at max power.

2. Does TCU have a sync in port so I can connect it to my camera PC sync port if I am using a flash on top of the hot shoe?

3. Any HyperSync feature?

4. How does AF assist work. Can't imagine it going through mdifier on the remote flash.

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Oct 12, 2011 11:44 |  #20

bobbyz wrote in post #13239878 (external link)
Aero, nice points.

Questions/Comments: -

1. Regarding +2 FEC, is it the camera or the trigger limiting it? Also +7 FEC won't do anyting if flash is already at max power.

2. Does TCU have a sync in port so I can connect it to my camera PC sync port if I am using a flash on top of the hot shoe?

3. Any HyperSync feature?

4. How does AF assist work. Can't imagine it going through mdifier on the remote flash.

Thanks in advance.



1. Initial test shows that FC on cam and TCU stacks up!

2. No. " 3. No Sync port on transmitter ( TCU ) so we can use to sync even if non canon body units.. non - ETTL of course.. As in like the strato II... " I wish there was.

3. Hyper sync what? no idea what that means... you might want to explain it to me So i can test for you.

4. AF assist works! ( on the flash that is. if you half press all the Flashes emit AF assist. assuming the same conditions apply if the Flash is on hot shoe. yes all channels A+B+C )
Sadly no AF assist on TCU. if Flash is in modifier.. AF still lights up but isn't useful.


also tried it using in conjunction with my fuji x100... Flash won't trigger even if TCU is set on manual mode...

But if I mount the 580ex2 on the fuji x100 and control the slaves via the master ( manual mode ) they all works. but only reliable 1/200 and below. usable at 1/250. Dead / does not trigger at 1/320.


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Oct 12, 2011 13:38 |  #21

The photos above shows the Odin has a zoom function which if it controls remotes would certainly be an advantage over the other triggers. I don't recall seeing this featured anywhere else, and would be pretty useful.

Even more useful if there was a Nikon version which did this.




  
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Oct 12, 2011 14:09 |  #22

aerosmith9110 wrote in post #13239357 (external link)
I bought 2 set of phottix Odin + 4 extra recievers (not all pictured ). cost Php 58T about Php 43 / USD 1...

my complains ( more on missing features ):
1. more than +2 on flash compensation.... ( I would like to see +7! )
2. No +1/3 EV on manual power setting... manual power setting of flash (1/8 +1/3.. 1/4 +2/3.... )



That's quite a set you've got there! :cool:


The FEC on the units I have goes to +/- 3 stops, and the manual power settings follow the same increments as any other Canon flash.
These are the limits of the Canon flash system, not the Odin.


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Oct 12, 2011 15:02 |  #23

Moppie wrote in post #13241068 (external link)
That's quite a set you've got there! :cool:


The FEC on the units I have goes to +/- 3 stops, and the manual power settings follow the same increments as any other Canon flash.
These are the limits of the Canon flash system, not the Odin.


What do you think of the build quality?

Great.. but still plasticky. but I think better than the yn rf 602s... buttons and nice. It feels like your really pushing buttons ( made of plastic ). unlike the buttons on the yn 460 v2!

" The FEC on the units I have goes to +/- 3 stops " - Yes but the 7D have more... ( as I remembered ) then I think its possible through a firmware upgrade.


And the zoom is nice! no more walking over to change zoom! and the lowest right button on the TCU serves as a Light on mode ( it will fire the modeling light all slaves )


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Oct 12, 2011 15:27 |  #24

aerosmith9110 wrote in post #13240376 (external link)
3. Hyper sync what? no idea what that means... you might want to explain it to me So i can test for you.

This is PW feature adjusting the timing on Tx side where flash fires relative to shutter blade openings. So on crop cameras you can get past max sync speed without going to HSS mode. For example on 1dmk2 I can go to 1/640 ss without seeing drastic power drop which you get when using HSS mode.


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Oct 12, 2011 15:31 |  #25

bobbyz wrote in post #13241449 (external link)
This is PW feature adjusting the timing on Tx side where flash fires relative to shutter blade openings. So on crop cameras you can get past max sync speed without going to HSS mode. For example on 1dmk2 I can go to 1/640 ss without seeing drastic power drop which you get when using HSS mode.

no idea.... but I think Odin's don't have it. haven't read it on the manual either.


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Oct 12, 2011 21:07 as a reply to  @ aerosmith9110's post |  #26

I really want to know if these will work with the new Sigma EF 610 Super DG. Pocketwizards will not work with it for some reason that even PW won't answer. I almost wonder if they came to an agreement with Canon to not work on anything else because all of the TTL signaling should be the same! So it would be great if you could confirm that these work on 3rd party E-TTL compatible speedlights!

By the way, did this company steal their "O" from Adorama?


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Oct 13, 2011 06:07 |  #27

I would need to look for someone who has 3rd party flashes... I already traded my 2 old nissin di 866 for 1 580 ex2 long before I got my odins.


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Oct 13, 2011 11:05 |  #28

Moppie wrote in post #13241068 (external link)
the manual power settings follow the same increments as any other Canon flash.
These are the limits of the Canon flash system, not the Odin.

Sir, My 580ex2 have 1/1 , 1/1 - 1/3 , 1/1 - 2/3 etc... I'm not sure what you mean by " These are the limits of the Canon flash system, not the Odin. " as the odin only has 1/1 , 1/2 , 1/4, etc...


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Oct 13, 2011 11:30 |  #29

bobbyz wrote in post #13241449 (external link)
This is PW feature adjusting the timing on Tx side where flash fires relative to shutter blade openings. So on crop cameras you can get past max sync speed without going to HSS mode. For example on 1dmk2 I can go to 1/640 ss without seeing drastic power drop which you get when using HSS mode.

Of course there is HSS... Here is a guy shooting 5.6 @ 1/2000... http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=dHQp2OP_xv4 (external link)


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Oct 13, 2011 11:32 |  #30

williejr wrote in post #13245595 (external link)
Of course there is HSS... Here is a guy shooting 5.6 @ 1/2000... http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=dHQp2OP_xv4 (external link)

I think he was mentioning Hyper sync ( PW feature )... and yes.. HSS works. I tried 1/8000 :D


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