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Photoshop, Bridge, and ACR/Adobe Camera Raw Performance Analysis Q6600 and i7 2600K

 
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Oct 10, 2011 04:26 |  #1

I've just upgraded from my old Q6600 PC to a new i7-2600K, and I wondered how much better the real world performance was. I'm an engineer and my current project has me doing a lot of performance analysis on very large scale systems, so I have a bit of a background in this - though this is very lightweight and superficial compared with my real work.

I did a series of tests, none that scientific but geared toward how I use the PC. Generally I process 1000-2000 wedding images at a time, and I may be doing exports in ACR at the same time as doing something else in Photoshop/Image Processor, using the web, and ftp'ing data around.

Here are the results and my analysis.

PC Setup

Both PCs ran Win7-64 and Photoshop CS4, the Q6600 had 4GB RAM, the i7 had 16GB RAM. The hard drive setup (which moved between machines for the tests):
- OS is 60GB OWC SSD (3Gbps), and was reinstalled on the new machine
- Bridge/ACR cache is 120GB OWC SSD (3Gbps)
- Various hard drives - 2x1GB Seagate Barracuda, 1x2TB Seagate Barracuda (main images drive), plus others not relevant

Notes
- I generally restarted the PC between runs so the memory cache wasn't making things faster, unless I used a different set of images.
- Three sets of images were used, as some tests ran things simultaneously.
- The RAW images used are mostly Nikon D700 images, but with a smattering of 5DII and 7D RAW files thrown in. The same files were used on each PC for each set of tests.
- I probably should've recorded the disk throughput, but I didn't. I had the performance monitor open at times, but didn't record anything.

Raw Data
See a spreadsheet of my timings here (external link).

Disk performance was interesting. When I started ACR and Image Processor at the same time, using two different spinning disks to hold the data, it was initially reading data at around 25MB/sec in total. Each disk is capable of 50-100MB/sec each, so they weren't working that hard. It was writing a total of 8-12MB/sec to the two destination disks.

During the export the disk read bandwidth used dropped off to almost zero, around 100KB/sec, but the destination disks were still going at the same speed. This tells me that the data was all read into system ram as a cache (I have 16GB RAM) before it was even needed. CPU usage was 40% for ACR/Bridge, 30% for Photoshop during this test.

When I repeated the export, the write speed stayed the same, but no data was read. This confirms that the source data files were cached.

When I tried again with a different set of images, with just Bridge going, data was read at 15MB/sec, and CPU usage was at 53%. This read performance again dropped off to near zero part way through the export.

Observations

The Q6600 seemed to be going at 100% most of the time, with the disk not really working that hard. The i7 occasionally reached 100% CPU, but more often sat at 30-80% CPU, and the disks were working harder. The disks weren't working at full speed though.

Conclusion

The i7-2600K takes between 1/3 and 1/2 the time the Q6600 takes to do real world batch image processing tasks. That's a really worthwhile speedup for people who have a large number of images to process.

Of course interactive speed is probably even more important than batch speed, but it's difficult to quantify. It definitely feels faster and more snappy, with less waiting around.

I'm not sure where the bottleneck is. The disks can read data a lot faster, and the CPU wasn't fully used, so my theory is the software is the bottleneck. Multithreaded programming for multicore machines is relatively difficult, so I expect things to get faster as technology improves. CS5 may be better than CS4 in this regard. I hear Lightroom can do simultaneous exports, which speeds things up, but I don't like the LR interface much.

The tests do show that Windows 7-64 can take advantage of lots of RAM to effectively cache files, both files already requested by a program, and reading ahead to files not yet requested. Once i've culled my photos the working images i'm left with are generally 6-12GB, so they should sit nicely cached in RAM :)


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Oct 10, 2011 05:00 |  #2

Very interesting, I knew the i7 was faster, didn't realize it was THAT much faster.

My Q6600 is sitting in bits in the cupboard at the moment, going to resurrect it as second workstation for next year :)


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Oct 10, 2011 05:11 |  #3

I actually expected more from it! Pretty sure the CPU can do a lot more with more efficient software.


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Oct 10, 2011 14:07 |  #4

Congrats on your new system Tim!

What video card are you using?
What was the before/after power consumption of your system?
What was the before/after CPU (full burn) temperature?
And how does the noise level of your new machine compare to the old one?

I'm starting to feel lonely with my similar specc'ed machine:

Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (stock speed and stock fan)
2x 2GB DDR2 800MHz (total of 4GB RAM)
nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 640MB
2x 320GB SATA 7200RPM
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PS CS4 64-bit

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Oct 10, 2011 15:21 |  #5

This isn't relevant to benchmarks of course, but are interesting for people considering upgrading.

What video card are you using?
Gigabyte GeForce GT520.

What was the before/after power consumption of your system?
Old system used 110W at full load. No idea about new system. Probably about the same, i'll measure it some time.

What was the before/after CPU (full burn) temperature?
I didn't measure temps before. My new system has a Noctuna NH-C14, a huge relatively expensive heatsink which I had to buy because my case is a bit too small for regular sized ones. The heatsink as mounted rattles, but Noctua is sending me a stabilisation bar to stop it. My case is designed to be quiet, and cooling is apparently not as good as some. It has a 120mm fan front and rear, and the power supply has its own intake and exhaust with a big 135mm fan.

Idle temp is about 22 degrees, full load about 58-62 degrees when running prime95.

And how does the noise level of your new machine compare to the old one?
It's slightly quieter, I think.


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Oct 12, 2011 12:40 |  #6

I built a Q6600 based PC myself a few years ago, but upgraded to the i7-920 a while ago and felt that I got a nice bump in performance.

I was going to upgrade to the latest i7 proc but decided against it because it's just not worth it.




  
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Oct 12, 2011 15:22 |  #7

Agreed, i7 920 to i7 2600 isn't really worthwhile. Wait another year and get a decent performance improvement.

I wonder where the bottleneck really is... IO limited somewhere, or software. Probably software.


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Oct 12, 2011 21:19 |  #8

Yeah, my dual-core Sandy Bridge i5 Mac Mini is just as fast as my Q6600 hackintosh was when it came to photo work. Faster gpu, too (integrated Intel H3000 256mb shared vRAM vs. NVidia 8600GT dedicated 256mb vRAM), though I'm sure the DDR5 RAM helps out the H3000.


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Oct 12, 2011 21:38 |  #9

The i5 mac mini should totally kick the Q6600 hackintosh Tony, not be about the same speed.


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Oct 12, 2011 21:48 |  #10

I first ran Geekbench and the Mini was a few hundred points higher than the Q6600. With Aperture brushes, though, the Mini was much better than the Q6600/8600gpu. Just about real-time rendering of 5Dii raw files on the largest brush setting. I never saw that with the Q6600/8600 hackintosh.


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Oct 12, 2011 21:51 |  #11

Artificial benchmarks, and even most application based benchmarks, aren't really all that useful for photography type stuff, that's why I did my own real world timings.


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Oct 13, 2011 14:23 |  #12

I still have a Q6600 sat in my machine. It does feel slow when rendering images/video. I plan on upgrading completely.

Thing is, my machine still runs 80% of my computer tasks beautifully. Windows is still as smooth as the day I got it... so what do I do with this machine? Nobody is going to buy it :/




  
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Oct 13, 2011 14:26 |  #13

The Q6600 really is still good for everything short of bulk image processing. I'm selling mine to a friend for about NZ$300 (about US$250) for a general use computer for his daughters. They're still plenty fast enough for that, and a new computer with that sort of performance costs about $600 here.


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Oct 14, 2011 15:31 |  #14

Thanks for the time and work you put into this. I have about the same system you build.
A ssd cache disk of 120 gb for bridge and acr makes that a big difference in working speed?




  
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Oct 14, 2011 16:11 |  #15

tim wrote in post #13246415 (external link)
The Q6600 really is still good for everything short of bulk image processing. I'm selling mine to a friend for about NZ$300 (about US$250) for a general use computer for his daughters. They're still plenty fast enough for that, and a new computer with that sort of performance costs about $600 here.

Thanks tim for your data... I think I'll stick with my US$250 system for now since I don't process thousands of images with strict deadlines.


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