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What can be done in an 8ft x 10ft studio... my humble setup:

 
m.shalaby
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Oct 11, 2011 15:54 |  #1

11/17/11 Update:
Looks like someone saw my efforts and wanted to feature me. Article on diyphotography.com about shooting in a tight studio here:
http://www.diyphotogra​phy.net …-have-no-studio-challenge (external link)

"Where there's a will there's a way." Right? Well, here is my humble and tiny home studio.

8ft wide, 10ft deep. Here's two shots of it, with a pull back of my session with Kate Wolf.

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As you can imagine, shooting in such a space becomes very, very tricky. But I just wanted to let those know that it can be done (with certain limitations) of course.
I’ve looked into renting studios for my NYC model shoots on a daily rate and its crazy expensive… and a larger place with my ideal studio space (20x20ft or larger) isn’t in the cards at the moment – so this is what I have to work with.

If anyone has such a space and is wondering if they can use it, I’m here to encourage you – yes you can.
It will force you to learn light and how to control it quickly. Flags, grids, gobo’s, modifier placement, lens FL, distance between model and backdrop, inverse square law, etc… etc… the list goes on and on. Tons of things to consider in such a tiny space… but it can be done. I've done all of the work below in the past 3 months... so you can see, you are somewhat forced to learn, and learn quick.

Some tips:
- Wall mount your paper backdrop - a must. No room for legs/stands.
- Full body shots are very hard/tricky. You'll have to use a distorting 35mm FL, and you'll have to have your model right up against the wall/backdrop - not good. So I've just settled for 3/4 and up.
- Grids, grids, grids! Grids go on just about everything. That and place your modifiers very close to your subject due to the inverse square law.
- Bi-Fold doors and foamboard to control light is a must. Black and white to block, or reflect.

While I am proud of the work I've done -
My point in sharing these is to show some that you can make such a space work. I've seen thread where people said such a space wont work, and you can only get headshots out of it. I find this untrue, and hope this helps others see that you can get some stuff out of a tight space:



  
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Oct 11, 2011 15:54 |  #2

Here are some things I managed to pull out of my 8x10ft room:

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Oct 11, 2011 15:56 as a reply to  @ m.shalaby's post |  #3

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Oct 11, 2011 16:15 |  #4

quite encouraging
i assume you would be between 35-85 mm FL in this space?
Can you do a two light setup as in back lighting with the parabolic and main light BD?

I like your use of mirrors


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Oct 11, 2011 16:21 as a reply to  @ bluelight's post |  #5

I must admit to being one who would consider a studio that small to be of very limited use (headshots etc), I like plenty of working space to set up in.

However, you have some really great shots there and they don't in any way show any problems due to the limited space, they all look like they were taken in a "proper" studio (no offence intended :D).

You have certainly changed my mind about the feasability of such a small working space.

Great work.




  
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Oct 11, 2011 17:17 |  #6

bluelight wrote in post #13236370 (external link)
i assume you would be between 35-85 mm FL in this space?
Can you do a two light setup as in back lighting with the parabolic and main light BD?

I usually live between 45-85mm. I've done a 3 light setup in here. Again, very tight and you can barley walk around, but it can be done.

sandpiper wrote in post #13236399 (external link)
they all look like they were taken in a "proper" studio (no offence intended :D).

Thank you & none taken - as that was my goal. I try to conceal the size of the space I'm in and make them look as 'open' as possible.




  
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Oct 11, 2011 18:04 |  #7

Like another poster stated, you cannot even tell from the final product that the space is so small which is all that matters.


I guess rule one in the studio is: Do not pass gas? :)


Question - what are you using to put up the background paper? Any closer images of the system? Thanks!


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Oct 11, 2011 18:13 |  #8

Great work Matthew,
I know countless photographers that pull off amazing work with a modest sized studio.


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Oct 11, 2011 18:19 |  #9

I like the "where is waldo" theme shot :D


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Oct 11, 2011 18:28 |  #10

Very encouraging for those who have to use limited space...you are obviously a talented photographer!


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Oct 11, 2011 19:17 |  #11

...damn showoff! LOL.

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Oct 11, 2011 19:29 as a reply to  @ snyderman's post |  #12

Great Job ...

I am in a similar situation.. I am encouraged.. but .. do you have a full frame camera?


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Oct 11, 2011 20:25 |  #13

Thanks for sharing :)


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Oct 11, 2011 20:39 as a reply to  @ siddr20's post |  #14

Thanks for the comments guys - I hope it encourages those with similar rooms that were told it can only be used for headshots to give it a go. It can be done.

I use this backdrop support to save space:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …all_Mounting_Ki​t_for.html (external link)

(mounted is Savage super white, fashion grey, & black)

Regarding FF - yes, all were shot with my 5D Mark II
BUT
You can do it with a crop as well. My most used lens in this room was my 24-70L for the versitility... so with a crop, you can just use a 17-50 zoom and achieve the same results.




  
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Oct 11, 2011 20:51 |  #15

Nice ones.


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