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Occupy Wall Street - crack down on photographers.

 
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Oct 12, 2011 11:41 |  #1

I just saw this article.. The NYPD is allowing the protestors, but after bad press (from photos and video of heavy handed cops) they are cracking down on photographers:

http://news.yahoo.com/​blogs/new-york...bouchon=501,ny (external link)

It seems unconstitutional to me, something about "Freedom of the Press!" Of course, we may not have the full story in the story.


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Oct 17, 2011 17:54 |  #2

hairy_moth wrote in post #13240364 (external link)
It seems unconstitutional to me, something about "Freedom of the Press!" Of course, we may not have the full story in the story.

Of course it is anti-democratic and anti-freedom. The police are like most of the country's institutions. They serve the well-to-do more than the have-nots. That's pretty much what the protest is about.

With the plethora of cameras and the immediacy of digital and the internet it will be a lot harder for the police to do a 'Kent Statw' or a 1968 Democratic Convention style policing.


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Oct 17, 2011 22:00 |  #3

If you look at the police as a single entity, it's easy to loose sight of the fact that they are people. Try to connect with them as individuals, recognize them as human, let them know your human too. Humor is your friend:

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So far I've had no issues with the police either photographing them or bad treatment, and have seen them be very courteous to journalists of both video and photography. I've seen them show significant restraint as well. That may just be the region I'm in, or isolated experience that isn't representative though.
I think it's worth trying to put yourself in their shoes, they have a job to do too. Sometimes a pretty dangerous job, with immense consequences for any mistakes.
On the other hand I think we should document what happens, try to keep everyone honest and accountable. If you look close, you'll probably see them taking video/photos of you, so make it a two way street.



  
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Oct 18, 2011 10:55 |  #4

am I missing something w/ the raman noodle cups? lol


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Oct 18, 2011 20:43 |  #5

The Ramen was put there sort of as an olive branch and to try to lighten the situation. Sort of a way to say "Hi, if you're hungry here's some food. We don't think we need to be hostile to each other."- at least that's my take on it. Now maybe Ramen was a deliberately silly choice (or a religious choice from an FSM disciple), but maybe it was just what was on hand. I observed several protesters offering food to all including the police, the ramen seemed funny though.
Humor can help to reduce tension in a lot of situations, and that's a good thing.




  
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Oct 18, 2011 21:43 |  #6

LOL


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Oct 19, 2011 22:40 |  #7

tk1138 wrote in post #13264714 (external link)
If you look close, you'll probably see them taking video/photos of you, so make it a two way street.

No doubt they are collecting intel and spying for the authorities

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Oct 28, 2011 20:15 |  #8

See heres the deal, I don't have a problem with cops, they're there to keep the peace, and they are normally just following orders from up on protests. I don't have a problem with them filming protests, certainly makes it a lot easier if something happens, anyways, you've got rights to photograph people in public places SO DO THEY! I wish I could be out getting pictures of the Occupy Wall Street Protests.


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Oct 28, 2011 20:21 |  #9

philmar wrote in post #13277039 (external link)
No doubt they are collecting intel and spying for the authorities

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Nov 09, 2011 20:15 |  #10

its simply showing that police can and do film the scenes as well


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Nov 09, 2011 20:43 |  #11

team haymaker wrote in post #13378534 (external link)
its simply showing that police can and do film the scenes as well

So What? Wanna avoid being documented? Stay home...


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Nov 10, 2011 09:34 |  #12

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #13378634 (external link)
So What? Wanna avoid being documented? Stay home...

and I agree.

Was there a different answer you wanted?


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