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would you trade? 5d2 to 1D3?

 
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Oct 17, 2011 01:45 |  #1

it might be a step backwards but if you had a chance to trade your 5D2 body only for a 1D3 with low shutter count.. would you?

a friend posed this question to me over the weekend and it got me thinking. i have a 30D for action photography and sports and for my 5D2 for portrait and landscape. i've seen some portrait shots with a 1D3 and looks way better than my 30D, but is the IQ better than my 5D2? humm....

also, would a 1D3 be a better choice for low light photography as compared to 5D2 with low light focus issue?

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Oct 17, 2011 06:22 |  #2

Although I shoot events and concerts, I do not need the stronger build of the 1D. I also do not need the better AF system. The 5DII does the job, for me. What I do need is the best IQ and high ISO noise performance I can find that is still within my price/pain threshold. I would not sell 1 of my 5DII's for a 1D3.

Actually when I was looking for a second body, it was between the 7D/1D3 and after long deliberation I bought the 7D. Kept it for 6 months, didn't like it, and replaced it with a second 5DII.


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Oct 17, 2011 06:41 |  #3

I would like a 1D3 to supplement my 5D2, but out of the two, I would rather have the 5D2 purely on IQ grounds. Now if it was a 1D4, then that would be a different story!


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Oct 17, 2011 06:45 |  #4

Never.

For landscape shooting, 5D2 gives me better IQ and a wider angle of view.

For long telephoto use (e.g. wildlife) the 7D gives me more pixels-on-target, while retaining fast and accurate AF and a good frame rate (I actually switched from 1D3 to 7D for this purpose).

For travel photography (which is what I do), both the 5D and 7D are smaller and more portable than the 1D3.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 06:53 |  #5

I wouldn't. I've owned both and the III was only really needed for sporting events. Any other time, the 5D2 was the better choice.

Also, I have no problems shooting in low light with the 2.


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Oct 17, 2011 09:20 |  #6

I own both, and my answer is no. I use the 1D Mk III for sporting events only, or if I really need the slightly longer reach and/or F/8 AF possibilities (as in, 100-400 with 1.4X Extender). Excellent camera, but heavy, and a bit low on the MPs for very large prints.

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Oct 17, 2011 09:28 |  #7

wimg wrote in post #13261188 (external link)
I own both, and my answer is no. I use the 1D Mk III for sporting events only, or if I really need the slightly longer reach and/or F/8 AF possibilities (as in, 100-400 with 1.4X Extender). Excellent camera, but heavy, and a bit low on the MPs for very large prints.

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The 5D2 gives you longer reach anyway - crop the 5D2 to 1.3x crop and you still have more than 10MP, or more pixels on target.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 09:37 |  #8

Shadowblade wrote in post #13261228 (external link)
The 5D2 gives you longer reach anyway - crop the 5D2 to 1.3x crop and you still have more than 10MP, or more pixels on target.

Yes, but it doesn't give me AF at F/8, neither does it give me the reaction speed I need when shooting sports.

Try shooting something coming at you at 40 - 60 mph, using a 100-400L on a drab day, towards dusk, not too much contrast, and you'll see what I mean :D.

Furthermore, you only get the crop advantage on FF if you can actually get closer to the subject. If that is impossible, cropping from a 5D II doesn't really help. Oh, and besides that, I am a bit funny, old school if you like: I hate cropping a picture afterwards. I frame and compose for the entire format I am shooting :D. But that's just me :D.

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Oct 17, 2011 09:41 |  #9

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Furthermore, you only get the crop advantage on FF if you can actually get closer to the subject. If that is impossible, cropping from a 5D II doesn't really help.

Yes it does - shooting a small target from the same position, the 5D2 will land 25% more pixels on target than the 1D3 will (there are 12.5MP on the 5D2 sensor in the same area as a 1D3 sensor), just as the 1D4 would land 60% more pixels on target than the 1D3.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 09:44 |  #10

1D all the way for me feels like a tank and works like on too. But I would have to say it depends on your personal use and what type of photography you do




  
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Oct 17, 2011 09:52 |  #11

Well, a 1D3 can handle portraits and landscapes a lot better than the 5D2 can handle sports. I'd say you need to decide which (if any) type of shots you like to do more.

I've owned both cameras, and both good for various reasons. I just didn't like you sorta get screwed on ultra-wide angles with the 1D3, but otherwise I thought it was a really nice camera, even with some of the "older" features.


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Oct 17, 2011 10:04 |  #12

Shadowblade wrote in post #13261279 (external link)
Yes it does - shooting a small target from the same position, the 5D2 will land 25% more pixels on target than the 1D3 will (there are 12.5MP on the 5D2 sensor in the same area as a 1D3 sensor), just as the 1D4 would land 60% more pixels on target than the 1D3.

Sorry, you have to see this in the light of my composing for the entire frame. I just don't crop, unless it is absolutely necessary, and even then only minimally.

Furthermore, I most often use the 1D III with 100-400L, and often the 1.4X Extender, when I need AF at F/8. When I use it this way, there generally is no time for MF, and even with 100-400L all by itself, in the conditions I often use it in, I don't get many sharp shots with the 5D II, I do with the 1D III.

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Oct 17, 2011 10:18 |  #13

I wouldn't take that trade.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 10:24 |  #14

I'd consider the trade.

But knowing my aversion to getting used bodies, I'd pony up the $$$ and sell the 5D2 to buy a new 1D4.

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Oct 17, 2011 11:12 |  #15

cputeq007 wrote in post #13261314 (external link)
Well, a 1D3 can handle portraits and landscapes a lot better than the 5D2 can handle sports. I'd say you need to decide which (if any) type of shots you like to do more.

I've owned both cameras, and both good for various reasons. I just didn't like you sorta get screwed on ultra-wide angles with the 1D3, but otherwise I thought it was a really nice camera, even with some of the "older" features.

The 5D2 is definitely not an action camera. But, if you like your ultra-wides as much as I do, a crop isn't a viable option at all.

Not to say that you can't capture some nice action shots with the 5D2, though:

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