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70-200 II has me torn...

 
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Oct 17, 2011 15:27 |  #16

bomzai wrote in post #13262903 (external link)
Then again you're certainly lucky that she doesn't complain about DSLR itself in the first place.

Without a big lens to complain about, next comes the body.


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Oct 17, 2011 15:39 |  #17

My wife is just getting interested causing me another problem. I'm tempted to dump the 7D and zooms and go all primes with the 5D2. She likes having 2 cameras though (and I do too, honestly), but I'm sure she wouldn't go for all primes. She is a green box shooter who says she is going to learn. Either way, it's better than a P&S.

I am so tempted to switch from f4 zooms to f2.8's, but the size and weight knowing she is starting to shoot is holding me back. This topic really tells the story for keeping my 70-200 f4L IS over the 2.8 II. Now to talk myself out of swapping the 24-105 for a 24-70... Need to keep telling myself, "Save for the 35L. Save for the 35L."


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Oct 17, 2011 15:39 as a reply to  @ Nathan's post |  #18

This thread is making me rethink my 70-200/2.8 II versus F4IS + 135/2 battle. Good info here.


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Oct 17, 2011 15:44 |  #19

FEChariot wrote in post #13263010 (external link)
This thread is making me rethink my 70-200/2.8 II versus F4IS + 135/2 battle. Good info here.

The one issue to remember is that no matter how "good" a lens is (and the IS II is AMAZING), if it doesn't fit with your style or what you shoot then it doesn't matter how great the IQ is.

If you can't get the shot in the first place you would be considerably better off with what works for you personally.

I am only an 8 day owner of the IS II but I am loving walking around the city with it, just loving it.


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Oct 17, 2011 15:46 |  #20

Sorry if I'm offending you, but the slider for the auto-focus was set to 1.2 to infinity and not 3m to infinity, right? I've caught myself needing to back up more, then I realize I have that button pushed the wrong way.

Anyway, I am the wife, my husband is the one giving my lens "the look" so it works both ways. I was at a concert event recently coveting a guys 70-200 2.8 while I used my 70-200 f/4. But after I upped that iso on my 7d and got home to look at my photos, I was thrilled. The more I use my f/4 the more I'm convinced I wouldn't get a lot of benefit from the 2.8 and it takes up more room in the bag. I just posted my Skynyrd concert photos in the 70-200 f4 thread. At 6400 iso at night with no flash allowed they turned out good. They are both awesome lenses but the f4 will take you a long way.


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Oct 17, 2011 15:53 as a reply to  @ MRagon's post |  #21

FREEBIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post up a link to your flicker account so we can check them out. Of course, had you had the 2.8, you would have been shooting ISO 3200 on your 7D, which in my experience was very respectable.


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Oct 17, 2011 16:03 |  #22

I saw her pics in the f4 archive thread. They came out great and she could probably gotten away with shooting at a quarter of the speed she used (1/800sec) and a much lower iso. I can't argue with the success of her shots however. The f4 is wonderful on high iso capable bodies and I have yet to feel limited by mine.


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Oct 17, 2011 16:09 |  #23

randy98mtu wrote in post #13263009 (external link)
She is a green box shooter who says she is going to learn. Either way, it's better than a P&S.

I love this quote!
I can the green box the "Wife Mode." lol...
If I were you, I would get your wife an S95 or the new S100. It's a spectacular P&S and it has all the manual modes for your wife to experiment with. If she's not willing to learn on a P&S, what makes you think that she'll learn on a DSLR?

Do what you want with YOUR camera. Trade up to a FF and the 70-200mm 2.8L IS II. It'll give her more reason to not use it. I also recommend you to get her a good P&S that she can enjoy shooting with. This is a setup I have and it's been working out really well.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 16:10 |  #24

MRagon wrote in post #13263057 (external link)
Sorry if I'm offending you, but the slider for the auto-focus was set to 1.2 to infinity and not 3m to infinity, right? I've caught myself needing to back up more, then I realize I have that button pushed the wrong way.

Funny you ask about that! She was taking some shots and kept saying that I looked fuzzy. After about 20 shots and more fuzzy comments, I realized it was set to MF (maybe switched in the hand-off). I did check the focus limiter, and it was still at 1.2m. No offense, BTW.

MRagon wrote in post #13263057 (external link)
Anyway, I am the wife, my husband is the one giving my lens "the look" so it works both ways.

I hear ya! LOL




  
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Oct 17, 2011 16:14 |  #25

I am just curious what family shots you are shooting at > 70mm at 1.2m and you want a shorter MFD ?


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Oct 17, 2011 16:19 |  #26

24-105L


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Oct 17, 2011 16:29 |  #27

Nathan wrote in post #13262725 (external link)
If I were you, I would have pulled out the 17-40. Better yet, sell the 17-40 and get a 24-70. Has anyone suggested that to you, yet?

I don't think I can part ways with the 17-40. I have too much fun with goofy kid shots, etc. with it. She uses it indoors with the 430 flash and takes some decent shots with it (in "P" mode).

Nathan wrote in post #13262725 (external link)
Does the wife use the 70-200 regularly? Is this your hobby or hers? I'm having some trouble understanding why her complaints about the lens should be factored into this discussion. My wife picks up my camera, says it's too big, and that's it. She never touches it again. I got her an S95 for her use. Depending on the skill level that your wife possesses... perhaps pick a suitable p&s for her.

She does not use it regularly and it started as a hobby for us both, but I developed much further with it. I'm not thinking she will ever really get into manual exposure (I use M only) or even Av or Tv modes. She was a green-boxer, then I insisted she stay away from it. Then we settled on P. Good idea on adv P&S, I will have to look into the S95 or similar.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 16:45 |  #28

bohdank wrote in post #13263190 (external link)
I am just curious what family shots you are shooting at > 70mm at 1.2m and you want a shorter MFD ?

I know...doesn't make much sense. These would have been head shots (mostly) with the little one's arms up grabbing for a low-hanging branch with the sun above and wife's face in the right spot. Found myself in a similar situation later.




  
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Oct 17, 2011 18:07 |  #29

I think you should get the 24-105. There is no one single lens that will give you the wide range that you are looking for, other than one of the super zooms.


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Oct 17, 2011 18:16 |  #30

bohdank wrote in post #13263647 (external link)
I think you should get the 24-105. There is no one single lens that will give you the wide range that you are looking for, other than one of the super zooms.

I second that.
24-105L is an awesome walk-around lens in these condition.


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