OFFICIAL: Canon 1D X announced

Möntgomery wrote in post #14078797
Just needs proper contrast and color.

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Way too far on the other side. Something right in between would be perfect.

I find it amusing that Canon release images that are sort of average, I also thought they were under exposed, but I agree with past posts, still pretty impressive noise wise, I think it is the 12800 that is important to me, I shot a football match the other nite on a poor lite ground, 1D4 and most were shot at 12800 at 1/250th, f2.8, and pretty shocking mostly, though I admit, most were user error, with an added fact one team bright yellow strip, the other black and dark red, but I could see that if I nailed the focus and exposure, there were some usable shots.

Going to be picking this model up soon enough.

I'm also a bit surprised at the sample pictures Canon puts up. Makes you wonder if they're trying for some sort of balance between "people won't believe these shots" and "just put something up to satisfy the user base". I really can't figure out their thinking. That said, the 12800 looks good despite the lack of "punch". And after some proper PP I'm sure they'll look even better.

But one thing is for certain, I'll be waiting on the 1DX as far as purchase goes. I just pray I can get my hands on one before wedding season so I can make some money back on it, although I somehow doubt it!

EC.Photo wrote in post #14079671
I'm also a bit surprised at the sample pictures Canon puts up. Makes you wonder if they're trying for some sort of balance between "people won't believe these shots" and "just put something up to satisfy the user base". I really can't figure out their thinking. That said, the 12800 looks good despite the lack of "punch". And after some proper PP I'm sure they'll look even better.

But one thing is for certain, I'll be waiting on the 1DX as far as purchase goes. I just pray I can get my hands on one before wedding season so I can make some money back on it, although I somehow doubt it!

I think you have the logical approach. Notwithstanding the rather unspectacular images put out by Canon for both the 1DX and the 5D3, we can pretty much guarantee that the IQ will be somewhat better than the predecessors, even if not by much. The real bonus in these new models are the features that enable us to "work better".

All the pixel peeping in the world means nothing if you can't get the shot you want when you want it, and both of these new cameras have features that for me will make a vast difference. When it comes down to it, for a wedding photographer like you or a wildlife/landscape photographer like me, the ability to focus accurately and make good captures at higher ISOs in poor light is essential. One assumes that the photographs you have been taking up till now are of good quality, so I assume that you are anticipating a higher percentage of keepers with the new model...as I am.

K6AZ wrote in post #14078711
The 1D4 was very usable at 6400, the bar for this is going to be 12800. Same goes for the 5D3. It's going to be very interesting to see exactly what the difference is between the two sensors at 12800.

Its gonna be night and Day.....did you see those portraits. I Thought this thing was not going to do F/8.....look at the first portrait

that deer is impressive. Look at the detail in the fur on his neck. Thats 6400,,,,,kaaarap........th​ats awesome

The 400 2.8 and 2x is f5.6 and not f8

umphotography wrote in post #14080146
...I Thought this thing was not going to do F/8.....look at the first portrait

theviper wrote in post #14048296
Is there no way to reverse the phase of the noise to cancel it out?

You seem to think along the lines of what a humbucking pickup for guitars does, or what a symmetric cable does for a microphone.

Unfortunately that doesn't work. The single coil guitar pickup doesn't make up the hum, the hum is in the air. So a reverse wound coil in a similar position can give you the inverted signal.

But the sensors make up the noise, so two sensors would make up noise that is neither the same nor exactly inverted. Plus you would have no way of separating out the signal you want. In the guitar pickup the second coil has different polarity magnets so it picks up an inverted signal from the strings. Combine it with the inversion from the opposite wind coil and you have double signal and canceled out the hum.

uOpt wrote in post #14080868
You seem to think along the lines of what a humbucking pickup for guitars does, or what a symmetric cable does for a microphone.

Unfortunately that doesn't work. The single coil guitar pickup doesn't make up the hum, the hum is in the air. So a reverse wound coil in a similar position can give you the inverted signal.

But the sensors make up the noise, so two sensors would make up noise that is neither the same nor exactly inverted. Plus you would have no way of separating out the signal you want. In the guitar pickup the second coil has different polarity magnets so it picks up an inverted signal from the strings. Combine it with the inversion from the opposite wind coil and you have double signal and canceled out the hum.

No. Had nothing to do with guitar pickups at all, just phase in general. Hence the reason I mentioned all the non guitar pickup examples that I mentioned
Saying that, people have come up with completely different ways of cancelling hum in single coils in the last coupe of decades. From Tyler having dummy coils placed in the control cavity to John Suhr's licensed system that surrounds the whole pickup cavity with basically a giant noise cancelling pickup. None are side by side hum cancelling methods. The dummy coil needs to be nowhere near the real coil.
Yes, as a guitarist, pickups are interesting to me but not at all what I was talking about. Never even thought about pickups.
Also, nobody uses a symmetrical cable for what every decent preamp and desk channel in the world already has a button to achieve. You would never hardwire an out of phase sound in real studio usage.
As I already stated, if the troublesome signal could be isolated anyway, you could just subtract the problem there and then. I was just trying to think out of the box but obviously didn't think it through and as I said, I am sure the Canon engineers are light years ahead of me in that respect
Anyway. Back to the 1D X......

Möntgomery wrote in post #14078797
Just needs proper contrast and color.

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Background still seems noisy to me but maybe I'm expecting too much.
For $7000, or thereabouts, seems as though everything should be done in camera better than what we have seen. I'm hoping to cut down on PS workflow.

Mark II wrote in post #14081476
Background still seems noisy to me but maybe I'm expecting too much.
For $7000, or thereabouts, seems as though everything should be done in camera better than what we have seen. I'm hoping to cut down on PS workflow.

Looks like the over-sharpening in post-processing introduced severe noise in the picture...

^^^
There was no sharpening, just upped the contrast so it wasn't flat...

umphotography wrote in post #14080146
Its gonna be night and Day.....did you see those portraits. I Thought this thing was not going to do F/8.....look at the first portrait

As another member pointed out, the 400/2.8 with 2x TC is f/5.6. And that's exactly the way they want it. No more 2x TC AF on the 300L f/4.

I've seen a lot of images but none from a source I'm very familiar with. Once both bodies come out and get into the hands of regular photogs we will see. I'm pretty sure the 1D X will have better noise performance but the question is by how much.

Silly question, but how come there is no mode dial on the top of the 1DX?