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Oct 19, 2011 08:45 |  #1

With the announcement of the 1D X, I found it interesting that Canon included networking capabilities into the camera (in the form of Ethernet).

Also, from this canonrumors.com post (external link), they might be including the same capability into all their cameras sooner or later (the article states WiFi in the Rebel).

Regardless of how networking is implemented, I was wondering what practical applications would networking have in the photo/video producing industry.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? Any speculations?

Please share your thoughts.

Thanks : )

P.S. Wouldn't WiFi be a more practical than Ethernet?




  
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Oct 19, 2011 08:48 |  #2

Well can you do an HD video feed over it or something?

Also WiFi in a camera to do untethered "tethered" shooting would be very nice for studios, as well as anyone on the sidelines of a sporting event I can imagine. And if I just had to turn on my camera to let LR sync the photos wirelessly, that would be cool too.


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Oct 19, 2011 10:38 |  #3

My guess is that it will show up like a networked share when you plug it in and you can access it like a NAS. Gig-E is faster than USB 2.0...however I'm not sure why they just didn't make it USB 3.0 and call it a day as that is faster with less overhead than ethernet. And it's not like the files will be that huge. RAW 18mp images are in the ~20-40mb range usually (unless this thing is recording even more dynamic range, which would increase the size of the file).

I also find Gig-E to be an interesting inclusion. It seems to me that wireless N would have been more practical from a wireless shooting standpoint.


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Oct 19, 2011 20:15 |  #4

I'm guessing the function is mainly for sports shooters. Many major stadiums have ethernet points around the sidelines. I think that's why they went with ethernet because it's already in place at venues.

It means photos can be sent out to the press room etc, without needing to dump them to a pc first or physically run a card to the photo editor.


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Oct 19, 2011 20:25 |  #5

Just think about the possibilities ethernet gives....

1. Power of the Internet..... Download pictures off the camera to any destination on the planet. Really, it can be done today by downloading to laptop, and then to any destination, but this has the possibility of getting rid of the middleman or laptop as it were.
2. Ethernet supports much faster download speeds - Offload the camera much faster (theoretically).
3. Ethernet is more reliable than USB networking.
4. Ethernet cables can reach further distances... 100 meters currently vs. 5 meters for USB.
5. Ethernet does not require the installation of device drivers, while USB does.


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Oct 19, 2011 20:38 |  #6

[QUOTE=Keyan;13273484]​My guess is that it will show up like a networked share when you plug it in and you can access it like a NAS. Gig-E is faster than USB 2.0...however I'm not sure why they just didn't make it USB 3.0 and call it a day as that is faster with less overhead than ethernet. quote]

Because of the cable length limitations of USB?




  
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Oct 19, 2011 20:41 as a reply to  @ davidc502's post |  #7

would there be a way to write files directly to a hard drive via ethernet cable, bypassing memory cards?


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Oct 19, 2011 21:31 |  #8

I'm waiting for a DSLR that post pics to Facebook automatically.


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Oct 19, 2011 22:37 as a reply to  @ miguelr's post |  #9

It will be handy for remote cameras at sporting events (eg a remote over the basket in the roof at a basketball game)
No waiting for the end of game to get the images, just run a long Ethernet cable to the wall, and down the wall to an easily accessed location on the floor
At half time plug the camera in and grab the pics.

I do think wireless would be better though.


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Oct 19, 2011 23:06 |  #10

I believe that many pros asked for ethernet. Previously, the a separate WFT transmitter would have to be purchased and attached to the camera in order to run the cable, but this feature replaces that entirely.


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Oct 20, 2011 00:09 |  #11

According to release note this camera is oriented for forensic and other highly paid imaging services due to crazy high ISO of this camera. If it supports one gig, it means you could plug it to wireless router and stream high ratio frames triggered by motion sensors, for example.
Forget these pro in the studio, those two options opens another market for Canon, where 7k price range is peanuts.


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Oct 20, 2011 00:31 |  #12

^ Indeed.

Two years ago my company sent me out on a mission to build a system for Multicare. They needed extremely large (150mb+) images sent as fast as possible across a network that needed to be designed from scratch so that it would not pound on their current infrastructure. Obviously the X wouldn't fit the bill but it does show where Ethernet is relevant to science institutions.




  
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Oct 20, 2011 00:46 as a reply to  @ Bananapie's post |  #13

I see a LOT of potential problems with this. If there is no implemented encryption how will anything transmitted be protected from theft? The world wide web is bad enough but openly transmitting images or streaming video without at least a rudimentary encryption system would seem to me to be inviting image theft pretty easily.

Am I wrong here?

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Oct 20, 2011 00:52 |  #14

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Oct 20, 2011 00:55 |  #15

If you work for a wire service like AP or Getty you would see the value in the Ethernet cable. If your editor wants files SOOC you can now hop on the nearest router and send them over. Or take the royal wedding for instance. Everything was transmitted via the WFT. Now there's a quicker, lockable, and wired source.

I also believe the cameras can be tempted triggered via Ethernet now. This is awesome for those several remotes around the stadium.


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