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Tips on getting good "grain"?

 
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Oct 24, 2011 00:57 |  #1

Recently I've become a little bit more interested in TRYING to get nice noisy pictures. In certain cases, I managed to get it really good, and ended up with some prints that had a nice "grainy" look to them. But I also tend to find that making my images SUPER noisy on screen doesn't translate to accentuated grain. Beyond a certain point, prints look less "grainy" and just look like they were prints of an image with too much noise.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any tips for getting a really good looking grainy look. I already try shooting at the highest ISO possible, but I'm still not quite satisfied. At 8.5x11, most of the pictures are still a little bit too clean for my tastes. And if I try to accentuate grain with post processing, that usually just makes the noise UGLY.

Any tips for really accentuating and enhancing low-ISO/low-light noise, and actually getting it to look GOOD (in print)?




  
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Oct 24, 2011 01:42 |  #2

I'd say one of the things to do is---and I do this via Lightroom--to totally wipe out the chroma noise. I don't think chroma noise ever helps. Also consider shooting 'clean' and adding noise in post processing (again, lightroom does this adequately; alien skin exposure does it better; and there are other products out there). I've definitely had photos that were just too clean (I shoot with a canon 5d and seldom go lower than 400ISO) so I added noise to them.



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Oct 24, 2011 02:36 |  #3

What software do you have? Lightroom and Photoshop Camera Raw have special "grain" effects, and I'd prefer that to low-light/High ISO digital noise -- it's a different "beast".


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Oct 24, 2011 23:57 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #4

For as long as I've been shooting digital, I've been trying to get the look and "feel" of Tri-X out of selected digital images.

So far, close, but not close enough.


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Oct 25, 2011 13:49 |  #5

alien exposure- give it a shot.




  
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Oct 25, 2011 13:57 as a reply to  @ Patrickd's post |  #6

If I was still shooting digital, I might invest in this, although it's a bit pricey:

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Oct 25, 2011 23:11 |  #7

Grain for Digital Black and White (external link)

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Oct 27, 2011 22:06 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #8

Sorry it took too long to reply. But thanks for the suggestions. There are some really good ones here.

Additionally, I've thought of something else really simple: if I want nice pretty substantial grain for a picture, then there's nothing stopping me from shooting with film and then just scanning my negatives.




  
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