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ACLU Sues Los Angeles Sheriffs Dept

 
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Oct 27, 2011 16:50 |  #1

http://latimesblogs.la​times.com/lanow/2011/1​0/aclu-sues-.html (external link)


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Oct 27, 2011 17:32 |  #2

Are cops really so stupid that they think terrorists need a big honkin' DSLR with L glass to take pictures of potential targets?




  
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Oct 27, 2011 17:58 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #3

Well the LASD is a bunch of jerks for the most part. I grew up in a LASD area and they are the biggest bunch of aholes. My opinion of the PD is the highest. They make big $$$ here in California and are jerks to the public.




  
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Oct 27, 2011 18:02 |  #4

LAPD used to give spotters near LAX a bad time as well. That it was illegal or something to take pictures of planes landing at LAX.




  
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Oct 27, 2011 18:10 |  #5

Interesting that the LA Sheriff's Department still operates in this manner, in spite of the fact that the Federal Goverment has made it very clear that public buildings owned by the Federal Goverment are free to be photographed.


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Oct 27, 2011 21:05 |  #6

Man... they can't even go around and take pictures without the feeling of being watched.


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Oct 27, 2011 21:21 |  #7

It's sad- really sad that this is an all too common occurrence. Wake up America!


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Oct 27, 2011 21:25 |  #8

Doesn't everyone feel so much safer than the police are monitoring these locations so thoroughly... while our news broadcasts and articles tell everyone how vulnerable all the other (listed in the broadcast/article) locations are to terrorist attacks?!


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Oct 28, 2011 06:48 |  #9

mike_d wrote in post #13317095 (external link)
Are cops really so stupid that they think terrorists need a big honkin' DSLR with L glass to take pictures of potential targets?

Yes, they are. To be fair, not all. But yes, they are.

Nobody thinks with logic or common sense any more. The world is driven by emotion.

It never occurs to any in the enforcement field (not just cops) that a REAL terrorist is going to do his scouting and photographing as covertly and unconspicuously as possible, and is most certainly not going to be out there with a camera the size of a football, a tripod, cable release and a lens so large it takes a hoist to lift.

It's all an emotional response to the present times. They use no logic. They're idiots.


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Oct 28, 2011 11:05 |  #10

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #13319517 (external link)
Yes, they are. To be fair, not all. But yes, they are.

Nobody thinks with logic or common sense any more. The world is driven by emotion.

It never occurs to any in the enforcement field (not just cops) that a REAL terrorist is going to do his scouting and photographing as covertly and unconspicuously as possible, and is most certainly not going to be out there with a camera the size of a football, a tripod, cable release and a lens so large it takes a hoist to lift.

It's all an emotional response to the present times. They use no logic. They're idiots.

Totally agree!!!! The cops have even arrested individuals who filmed them making arrests from across the street. The police in this country can do whatever they want a lot of times and get away with it.

I live in southern California so I have seen my share of it. We just recently had a homeless man beaten to death by the Fullerton Police and last weekend a man in Downey who was not involved in the robbery was shot and killed by the police.




  
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Oct 28, 2011 12:01 |  #11

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.




  
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Oct 28, 2011 16:17 |  #12

Good Job by ACLU, i wonder if there is a way to sign up for notifications on court case.




  
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Oct 28, 2011 16:26 |  #13

S.Pham wrote in post #13317989 (external link)
Man... they can't even go around and take pictures without the feeling of being watched.

Watching people is their job, and there's nothing wrong with the police asking a few questions.

Detaining people without probable cause is something they shouldn't be doing.

We'll have to see how the case progresses, though I doubt it will have a major impact on how the law enforcement community deals with photographers.


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Oct 28, 2011 16:43 |  #14

Photographer arrested for "No Apparent Esthetic Value" (external link)

Just goggle and put see how many cases there are now of people being arrested by the police for taking pictures of them.




  
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Oct 29, 2011 12:58 as a reply to  @ seaninsa's post |  #15

All this BS about "protecting the public" and "suspicious activity" is just out of hand.

I want to know when it has been proven that a terrorist group has used DSLR's to photograph potential targets. I don't believe it has ever been found to happen. If someone was to take picture of a potential "target" then why use a big ass camera and stick out like a sore thumb when nearly every phone has a tiny camera built righ in now a days!

I have many officer friends and I have a great respect for those that wear the uniform but those that abuse their power and due stupid crap like this I have zero respect for. Educate yourself or take off the uniform. Being a bullie in the name of "counter terrerisum" is still being an uneducated bullie.

I hope the ACLU burn the hell out of any department that does crap like this. Just utter nonsense!




  
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