Image stabilized for Full Frame

Here's an interesting question, what out there is full frame, Image Stablilized and of a general work around focal length?

I can only think of two Canon lenses, the 28-135 and the 24-105 F4.

I have a 24-70 2.8, but I'm looking for something with a similar range that is stabilized for video work on a 5D2.

The 28-135 would be ideal, it's cheap and the IQ is more than enough for video.

I can't think of anything else that is full frame, although there is a mass of crop sensor lenses with IS.

On the ultra cheap, it's hard to beat the Samyang (bell&howell, rokinon, bower) 14mm 2.8 for video. No zoom, mega-wide, and suffers from heavy distortions, but that's hardly a problem for video. Sharp, sharp, sharp.

Too early and didn't read properly. Obviously no IS on the Samyang. Still a great lens for video work.

The 18-200mm IS isn't bad for a superzoom at "only" $500-ish. The Canon 28-300mm IS fits into the standard zoom range if you like dropping $3k. I can't even think of any standard zoom 3rd party lenses that fit the IS/OS/VC requirement for FF-only

there's really only 2 ef general walkaround L zoom from canon.....24-70 or 24-105, and we all know which one has IS.

Yeah some of those old lenses are cool, but I'm just shooting run and gun stuff with a very limited budget and an even more limited skill set

This sort of thing: http://youtu.be/rw-M1gdVHJU

The 24-70 is nice and sharp and easy to focus, but I can't always work with a tripod, and as you can see, there is a lot of shake in that footage! (among other problems)

MOkoFOko wrote in post #13336390
On the ultra cheap, it's hard to beat the Samyang (bell&howell, rokinon, bower) 14mm 2.8 for video. No zoom, mega-wide, and suffers from heavy distortions, but that's hardly a problem for video. Sharp, sharp, sharp.

Too early and didn't read properly. Obviously no IS on the Samyang. Still a great lens for video work.

The 18-200mm IS isn't bad for a superzoom at "only" $500-ish. The Canon 28-300mm IS fits into the standard zoom range if you like dropping $3k. I can't even think of any standard zoom 3rd party lenses that fit the IS/OS/VC requirement for FF-only

Still a bit early?
The 18-200 is an EF-S lens and won't mount on a 5D2.

Looks like you've got it narrowed down to your only two options in that category, to me. Features (fixed vs variable aperture, slightly wider vs moderately longer, etc) and budget seem like the deciding factor there.

Moppie wrote in post #13336431
Yeah some of those old lenses are cool, but I'm just shooting run and gun stuff with a very limited budget and an even more limited skill set

This sort of thing: http://youtu.be/rw-M1gdVHJU

The 24-70 is nice and sharp and easy to focus, but I can't always work with a tripod, and as you can see, there is a lot of shake in that footage! (among other problems)

Just keep in mind that the IS motor sound will be picked up by the 5d2 and is very noticeable....unless you're using an external mic.

Eh, there's not really any for Canon. Or Nikon. On APS-C the Sigma 17-50 would work.

Sony has IBIS on all their lenses, which can be good for video.

Moppie wrote in post #13336368
Here's an interesting question, what out there is full frame, Image Stablilized and of a general work around focal length?

I can only think of two Canon lenses, the 28-135 and the 24-105 F4.

The 28-135 would be ideal, it's cheap and the IQ is more than enough for video.

I can't think of anything else that is full frame, although there is a mass of crop sensor lenses with IS.

There may be more 1.6X specific range lenses numerically, but there are not really many with a better feature set than the two FF lenses you mentioned.

When you use the 24-105L on a FF camera, it gives the same FOV range and DOF ability that a mythical EF-S 15-65 f/2.5 IS would give on a 1.6X body. So when you look at all these various lenses like the Tamron 17-50 OS or the EF-S 17-55 IS you realize that none of them offer more range or a better control of DOF.

And when you consider the high ISO capability of FF bodies, the one stop is even a wash as well.

The 28-135 IS is effectively like a mythical EF-S 17-85 f/2.2-3.5 IS on a 1.6X body. For the price, what else are you really looking for?

About the only 1.6X specific IS equipped lens that I can think of with no affordable FF counterpart is the EF-S 18-200 IS. And then if money is no object there is of course the EF 28-300L IS.

xarqi wrote in post #13338319
Still a bit early?
The 18-200 is an EF-S lens and won't mount on a 5D2.

Whoops, was thinking it was EF mount, another of the reasons I never bought that lens. And that's not completely true--it is possible to do a FF conversion for that lens, but it is not without heavy vignetting.

40dbaby wrote in post #13338584
Just keep in mind that the IS motor sound will be picked up by the 5d2 and is very noticeable....unless you're using an external mic.

Yip, got a nice external mic, although most of the moving shots will have separate audio over the top

I've used plenty of IS lenses, they do make a lot of noise.

Snydremark wrote in post #13338369
Looks like you've got it narrowed down to your only two options in that category, to me. Features (fixed vs variable aperture, slightly wider vs moderately longer, etc) and budget seem like the deciding factor there.

Yip, sounds like are only the two.
I thought Sigma or Tamron might have made one as well, but they are clearly more focused on the consumer and crop sensor market.

JeffreyG wrote in post #13339636
There may be more 1.6X specific range lenses numerically, but there are not really many with a better feature set than the two FF lenses you mentioned.

DOF is not an issue, everything will be shot at around F8. If I want shallow DOF I can pull out one of my L's.
These are really the deciding factor between using the 5D2, or just getting an HD handy cam with built in IS.
Given the cost of the 24-105 is about the same as a really nice HD video camera. Of course the IQ will not be nearly as good, but it would suffice for the work I do.

I find it interesting that IS is pretty much standard now on most crop sensor lenses, of which there are new ones coming out all the time.
Clearly the FF market is not as popular and the R&D is getting directed else where.

In addition to Canon's EF 24-105mm f/4 IS L USM, EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM, and EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L IS USM lenses, Tamron makes the 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XT DI VC which is full frame and stabilized. It has gotten some decent reviews. I have not tried it.

macroimage wrote in post #13340997
In addition to Canon's EF 24-105mm f/4 IS L USM, EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM, and EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L IS USM lenses, Tamron makes the 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XT DI VC which is full frame and stabilized. It has gotten some decent reviews. I have not tried it.

Ahh! Cool, good find

While I'm sure the IQ is not up to the 24-105 standard, for video use the focal range and min-focal distance could be interesting.
It's not cheap though, around the same price as the 24-105.

The Tamron gets you to 1:3 magnification which is quite impressive. The front element doesn't rotate and the filter size is only 67mm so polarizers and grad filters will be cheaper than with the Canon lens. It is $595 at B&H and they have used ones from $450. The EF 24-105mm is $1091 so almost double.

Moppie wrote in post #13341026
..... the 24-105 .......

If you want to try one, I got one a couple of months ago, great walk around on full-frame! You know where it is!