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Should I go for the 60d or a 7D

 
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Nov 04, 2011 08:55 |  #16
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I just picked up the 70-200 F4 L lens, the thing is absolutely flawless! I will be ordering a 60d tomorrow. I have used a friends 60d for about a week and I loved the camera, I could potentially order the 7d, but it just doesn't seem like the quality/features will be so substantial that I have to spend $500 more just for the body...

You are on the right path... now sell T3, save some money and get 17-55 and 50mm 1.8. You will be for a long time


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Nov 04, 2011 14:07 as a reply to  @ CanonCleGuy's post |  #17

From actually owning a Canon 60D and using it to take pictures like these, experience shows that there are no shortcomings with the camera.

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The 60D had no difficulty creating these images. Canon makes many useful DSLR's, but none can perform miracles.



  
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Nov 04, 2011 14:26 |  #18

Good choice. I really like my 60D.


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Nov 04, 2011 15:07 |  #19

Keyan wrote in post #13354133 (external link)
Good choice. I really like my 60D.

Loving it as well - and thr GL, who is a complete newbie to DSLR photography, is finding it a great camera to learn on. She's at the stage where she no longer uses the "Green Box" mode exclusively and finds the other Auto modes (macro, portraits etc) helpful. I'm no expert on the 7D but those options don't appear to be there, and the 60 is perfect for our use.

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Nov 04, 2011 15:15 as a reply to  @ redflash's post |  #20

Ignorance is bliss; I cannot think of a single time that I said to myself, "gee, I wish I had spent another 4-500 for the 7D"


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Nov 04, 2011 15:24 |  #21

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #13340593 (external link)
60D + 17-50 Tamron, you will get improvement in every aspect.

This.
I upgraded from the Rebel XT to the 60D and Tammy 28-75, and im not going to lie, Its fantastic X2!


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Nov 04, 2011 15:32 as a reply to  @ post 13352601 |  #22

60d is likely available on the Canon Loyalty program. I got mine that way about 6 weeks back, bottom line on the body was $630. Check it out, assuming you live in the States.

By the way in your initial message you didn't state that the lens you could get was an "L". The "L" type of glass will often substantially change the answers you get!




  
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Nov 04, 2011 15:35 |  #23

For me, the decision was an easy no-brainer.

1. I don't shoot sports and don't need 8 FPS.
2. Money saving (~$500) can go towards a new lens or flash (I got another 430 EX II).
3. I need, Need, NEED, *NEEEEEEED* the swivel LCD screen. Did I mention I need the swivel LCD screen?

60D wins, no contest.


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Nov 04, 2011 15:46 |  #24

Better to be glass rich and body poor rather than body rich and glass poor.




  
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Nov 04, 2011 19:54 |  #25

Having recently upgraded from a T1i to a 60D, I think you would be very happy with a 60D if you don't specifically need the 7D. I've never used a 7D, I'm sure it's a real nice camera, but the 60D is no slouch. Keep in mind the 60D is bigger than a T3, and the 7D is bigger even more so.




  
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Nov 04, 2011 20:01 |  #26

I was sure I was getting the 60D that is of course until I held the 7D
haven't looked back
I went from an XS and I just knew had I gotten the 60 I would have been looking to jump again.
I'm happy and now i just look to the the lenses


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Nov 05, 2011 15:57 as a reply to  @ You-by-Lou's post |  #27

It's 60d or bust for me this Christmas. Time to upgrade from the Xti.


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Nov 05, 2011 17:05 |  #28

Definitely get the 60D and the lens.

I'd much rather have a great lens on the cheapest, most entry level body... than a great camera with crappy glass. Lenses make much, much more difference in your images, than the camera used with them ever will. Lenses determine the quality of your images, while the camera just provides conveniences that may or may not be necessary for what you shoot.

7D, 60D, T3i an T2i all use essentially the same 18MP sensor and Digic 4 processor (7D has dual processors, so it can shoot 8 fps.... plus a separate processor for AF, like the 1D series, so that focus can track moving subjects better).

With 7D you are paying a lot extra for the build (such as 150K rated shutter, vs 100K), 100% viewfinder, and add'l sports/action oriented AF features. It's fast, but really not all that much faster than 60D. So unless you shoot a ton and a lot that is sports/action, you would be paying $500 extra for features you don't really need, might never use.

I'm not talking down 7D... In fact, I've been using a pair of them for about two years now... shoot a lot of sports and wildlife, and often take 2000+ shots a day on the job... but before that I used 50D and 30D with nearly as good results, in terms of AF tracking speed/accuracy in AI Servo. I see probably 96-98% accurate focus with 7D, where I was probably getting about 94-96% with 50D before. In One Shot, there's no real difference. It is nice occasionally, having 19-point AF instead of 9-point... but most of the time I use just the center point anyway, same as with the other cameras. The 7D's AF system adds a whole additional layer of complexity to learn to use well... can be great, but also can easily be set up incorrectly and end up with poorer results.

Plus a 60D can use the same memory cards you're using now. With 7D, you'd need to buy Compact Flash memory for it.

The 7D does have MFA, which 60D doesn't. I think Canon screwed up, leaving that off 60D. But it might not be something you need or use at all.

OTOH, 60D has that nice articulated LCD, which should be handy for shooting video or macro, high or low angle shots, and might even be nice for landscapes and portraits, too. And the locking mode dial is nice (which is possible to have added to 7D... but costs $120). Can't tell you how many times I've accidentally bumped the mode dials on 7D and other cameras, ended up with a few screwed up shots before I discovered the settings were off.

Some folks express concern about the additional polycarbonate (aka "plastic") construction of the 60D, but it has a metal chassis (which your current camera doesn't) and feels a whole lot more solid in hand than one might expect, reading some of the commentary here.

60D also uses a true pentaprism, which, even if "only" offers 97-98% coverage will be a nice step up from the penta-mirror in your present camera.

The 7D is heavy, too, thanks to relatively no-holds-barred build and the 100% viewfinder. In fact it's a wee bit heavier than 5DII. With it's vertical grip & two batteries, it's even slightly heavier than the 1D Mark IV.

60D is nearly 20% lighter than 7D (body only, in both cases).

They both use LP-E6 batteries, which I believe are larger and will give you more shots per charge than your present camera. I find they give probably 40% more shots per charge than the BP511A I used in earlier cameras. The LP-E6 cost more, but where I used to carry two backups for every battery in my camera with the BP511A, I now only carry one backup per LP-E6 (which my 5DII conveniently shares with 7D, too).

The layout of controls on the 60D is different. It's a bit of a hybrid, sort of in between your current Rebel model and the xxD design. The "joystick" on the latter is replaced with a mulit-directional knob at the center of the quick control dial (which your Rebel didn't have and makes a big difference out shooting, once you learn to use it). But the 60D's AF point selector is better located if you use the camera in vertical/portrait orientation with a battery grip. You can reach it with your thumb to move the AF points around. You can't do that on 7D (or 5DII or earlier xxD models... Only the new 1DX offers dual joysticks, to make it that control more accessible in vertical orientation).

Go check out the cameras in a store, I'd suggest. But basically you can do almost as much with 60D as you can with 7D.

You weren't specific about the lenses you have now, but almost certainly will see much more improvement in your images adding to or upgrading lenses, than you will upgrading camera bodies.

BTW, it's really nice to have IS on longer lenses on a crop camera.... If at all possible, I'd suggest to stretch your budget to get the 70-200/4 IS, over the non-IS model.


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Nov 05, 2011 18:32 |  #29

amfoto...great read. if I didn't already have I would jump on the 7D over the 60D based on your review


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