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Nov 08, 2011 08:36 |  #1

Original Image.

The issue is that the bar interior on the lower left corner breaks the symmetry.

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Solution 1: Non-Standard aspect ratio eliminates the wood border on the bottom entirely

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Solution 2: Use Content Aware Fill to make a continuation of the wood border, to keep a standard aspect ratio

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I think the Non-Stadard Aspect Ratio looks the best, but it is "Non-Standard", which sometimes people get caught up on.

I also need to fix the perspective distortion slightly too, it may be skewed to the right a bit.

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Nov 08, 2011 08:41 |  #2

#2.. I'd clone the edge over the content aware section though, it's blurred and uneven. I'd also try and desaturate the orange in that potted plant, it's a bit distracting.

Another thing that might make this stand out a bit more (though again, non-standard ratio), is to just black out the bottom completely, and then add (increasing the height) another black portion of the same size to the top.. giving it that cinematic, wide-screen format look.

Cool shot though, looks like a very relaxing place.


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Nov 08, 2011 08:54 |  #3

Thanks! I see what your saying about that wooden edge there, the content aware kinda made it mushy.

I'm going to try processing another version using manual layer blending in photoshop instead of Nik HDR Efx today too, and see how that goes. That might give me more control to pick a lower exposure for the orange pot, and also get rid of the ghosting on the people completely.


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Nov 08, 2011 09:55 |  #4

You know what?

There's not that much symmetry to start with so I think you're just making work for yourself. The original is pretty good as it is.


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Nov 08, 2011 10:03 |  #5

I like solution #1.




  
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Nov 08, 2011 10:16 |  #6

NatDeroxL7 wrote in post #13370200 (external link)
Thanks! I see what your saying about that wooden edge there, the content aware kinda made it mushy.

I'm going to try processing another version using manual layer blending in photoshop instead of Nik HDR Efx today too, and see how that goes. That might give me more control to pick a lower exposure for the orange pot, and also get rid of the ghosting on the people completely.

You could just use what you have now and use a saturation layer mask to drop that orange "strength" a bit.


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Nov 08, 2011 12:44 |  #7

Heres a try at using layer masks. Not my strong suit yet, I think I did the sky too dark


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Nov 09, 2011 07:57 |  #8

The colors in the last one look great, Im having trouble with the uneven edge that you cloned to the bar though, since it's higher on one side than the other. Unfortunately it seems to actually be a perspective issue which can't be fixed by image rotation, if you were to slightly rotate counter clockwise and crop, then the top portion of the door/window/whatever you want to call it would be even more slanted than it already is.

my opinion - apply the layer mask for colors you did in this last image to the first one without the cloning.


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Nov 09, 2011 08:09 |  #9

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The colors in the last one look great, Im having trouble with the uneven edge that you cloned to the bar though, since it's higher on one side than the other. Unfortunately it seems to actually be a perspective issue which can't be fixed by image rotation, if you were to slightly rotate counter clockwise and crop, then the top portion of the door/window/whatever you want to call it would be even more slanted than it already is.

my opinion - apply the layer mask for colors you did in this last image to the first one without the cloning.

I just noticed that the OP does not have Image Editing OK...OP please change your profile quickly, or we won't be legitimately allowed to post these corrections!...

The fix is also not simple rotation. I used perpective correction to do this...

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Nov 09, 2011 08:28 |  #10

Wilt wrote in post #13375046 (external link)
I just noticed that the OP does not have Image Editing OK...OP please change your profile quickly, or we won't be legitimately allowed to post these corrections!...

The fix is also not simple rotation. I used perpective correction to do this...


...then I also altered the aspect ratio of the photo to do this

(didn't want to quote the pics just in case)

Im very wet behind the ears when it comes to PP, so thanks for pointing out what you could do to address what I was thinking there.. I knew rotation wouldn't solve it but a perspective correction, what a perfect solution, I'll have to look up how to do this.


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Nov 09, 2011 10:36 |  #11

Youre good, didn't even know I had to do that


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Nov 09, 2011 11:09 |  #12

Wilt wrote in post #13375046 (external link)
I just noticed that the OP does not have Image Editing OK...OP please change your profile quickly, or we won't be legitimately allowed to post these corrections!...

The fix is also not simple rotation. I used perpective correction to do this...
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...then I also altered the aspect ratio of the photo to do this
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Taking your advice, fixed perspective a tad.

Also added a bit of curves to make the brights more natural looking, then brushed in a contrast layer on the dock to give the wood some more texture. Cloned out some of the ghosting on the woman's legs and on the boat engine on the left side. Hard to clone out the ghosting on the man, or the boat in middle, as it looks even more unatural.

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Nov 09, 2011 13:45 |  #13

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You know what?

There's not that much symmetry to start with so I think you're just making work for yourself. The original is pretty good as it is.

You know what? I agree. To my mind, it makes the photo look more believable and it gives the eye somewhere to start on its journey out through the window to the horizon (while having a beer on the way). I find the parallel line created by the front edge of the bar to be distracting. If the original photo had looked like that, I might have suggested adding a jag to the bar.

Also, I like the original's exposure of the interior better than any of the others. The edits of everything outside the windows are great - they really bring the scene to life.

Very cool image. At some point in the future, I might try to create something similar for my multi-monitor setup, definitely including the beers and radio!


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Nov 09, 2011 14:25 |  #14

NatDeroxL7 wrote in post #13375924 (external link)
Taking your advice, fixed perspective a tad.

Also added a bit of curves to make the brights more natural looking, then brushed in a contrast layer on the dock to give the wood some more texture. Cloned out some of the ghosting on the woman's legs and on the boat engine on the left side. Hard to clone out the ghosting on the man, or the boat in middle, as it looks even more unatural.



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Nat, I think you did quite good with this! I especially like the bit of boosting you did to the sky highlights!


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Nov 09, 2011 15:05 |  #15

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Nat, I think you did quite good with this! I especially like the bit of boosting you did to the sky highlights!

Thanks!

I'm jonesing for a TSE 24L so I can get this image without the intense post perspective corrections.


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