rude photographers & getting position on the sidelines

depends on the field but i personally think that when trying to get the best exposure possible shady foreground and shady background makes the cleanest images. shooting into the sun give a hard back light on your subject. and the lighting on your subjects face is even and more pleasing to look at because you can actually capture the detail in their faces rather than having pictures of players kinda of squinting with the sun in their eyes with rather flat lighting that requires higher shutter speeds than desired to freeze the action.

im personally happier with the results i get shooting into the sun, i feel my shots are easier to work with and expose. i am ok with the grass getting blown out as a result if i can have better detail in my opinion which is by no means the right opinion im not as experienced or talented as most people here but the soccer shots i got from shooting into the sun i was overall more proud of the work i did. i just wish my lighting for basketball was better lol

+1 to shooting into the sun.

The athletes look OK with the sunlight behind them I guess, but that screaming overexposed grass just kills those shots for me. The first one isn't too bad, but in the second the overexposed grass is background to most of the athlete and I just don't like it.

JeffreyG wrote in post #13421764
The athletes look OK with the sunlight behind them I guess, but that screaming overexposed grass just kills those shots for me. The first one isn't too bad, but in the second the overexposed grass is background to most of the athlete and I just don't like it.

oh i totally agree with you 100%, i wish i was better at post processing but im almost positive that the blown grass in those 2 shots cant really be fixed but i am very happy with my ability to capture the action well considering my level of experience. if i continue shooting sports im pretty sure my style will change to be more efficient in guaranteeing as many keepers as possible since shooting in the sun for me had a great keeper rate but i dont think it would always be consistent every time. i do not see shooting sports professionally in my future so i am trying to have as much fun as possible while i am shooting since i shoot for my school and once i graduate i wont shoot it anymore unless the school offers to continue paying me as a freelancer

Brian_R wrote in post #13421779
oh i totally agree with you 100%, i wish i was better at post processing but im almost positive that the blown grass in those 2 shots cant really be fixed but i am very happy with my ability to capture the action well considering my level of experience. if i continue shooting sports im pretty sure my style will change to be more efficient in guaranteeing as many keepers as possible since shooting in the sun for me had a great keeper rate but i dont think it would always be consistent every time. i do not see shooting sports professionally in my future so i am trying to have as much fun as possible while i am shooting since i shoot for my school and once i graduate i wont shoot it anymore unless the school offers to continue paying me as a freelancer

Don't take my comments as being overly critical. I was just stating that the obvious downside to shooting into the sun will often be that you need to blow out the grass, and (IMO) that often doesn't work.

Daylight shooting can be tough for harsh contrast. There are different approaches with different tradeoffs.

My guess is that she was shorter than you are -- correct?

I'm 6'2" so I get this all the time at LAX tournaments with other PWACs. They cannot shoot from behind me.

When that happens, I just move a bit.

I can only thing of one time I did something else -- I started shooting on my knees and that stopped it, because she knew that I could not shoot around an axe-handle wide body part.

jdnan wrote in post #13391104
I was shooting a high school football game last night and there was a woman there who was shooting the game as well (I think a mom) & everywhere I would move to position myself, she would go to the same spot, about 2 or 3 feet closer to the line of scrimmage, and about 1 foot in front of me. I'm sure she wasn't intentially doing this, but it was beyond annoying. Finally, after the 4th or 5th time she positioned herself in this manner, I politely asked her not to do this and you would have thought I called her ugly & fat. I've never had someone do this to this degree, do others have this problem often when shooting the sidelines?

Wasn't intentionally doing this? This sounds like it was just to block you off. You should tell someone in charge of the ground (if it wasn't played on a normal park) or someone in charge of the game to give her a warning. Her attitude are totally unwarranted

JeffreyG wrote in post #13421794
Don't take my comments as being overly critical. I was just stating that the obvious downside to shooting into the sun will often be that you need to blow out the grass, and (IMO) that often doesn't work.

Daylight shooting can be tough for harsh contrast. There are different approaches with different tradeoffs.

oh no i dont. i try to be as open as possible on forums like this because i have the opportunity for someone like yourself to correct me if i am wrong or suggest something better that i dont know, the comments i get and see here are extremely helpful

Following you around is one thing but standing in front of you something else. With people like that you have to be firm and show them you are pissed off. She knew what she was doing and didn't care.

LiberationFrequency wrote in post #13408562
Homecoming and senior day... love all the people wandering around with their iPhones. That was sarcasm, btw.

If it's a 4s id get out of their way..

Taylor02GT wrote in post #13430732
If it's a 4s id get out of their way..

what if it is an iphone with that lens adapter and they are shooting with the same glass as you? do you stop shooting and just see how you can help them? lol

400dabuser wrote in post #13421842
Wasn't intentionally doing this? This sounds like it was just to block you off. You should tell someone in charge of the ground (if it wasn't played on a normal park) or someone in charge of the game to give her a warning. Her attitude are totally unwarranted

I just found out that she's a free lance photographer & was taking for a local newspaper.

useakme wrote in post #13430718
Following you around is one thing but standing in front of you something else. With people like that you have to be firm and show them you are pissed off. She knew what she was doing and didn't care.

That's usually the tact I tend to take because I can easily lose my temper, but I don't like to do that and, thankfully, I was able to maintain my composure and keep a calm & polite demeanor. As I said she did stop, and I think it's partially because she had to have been embarrassed by her behavior and the fact that I was able to maintain my composure.

jdnan wrote in post #13431386
I just found out that she's a free lance photographer & was taking for the Dallas Morning News.

Do you mean that she was hoping to sell her shots? That sheds a different light on her behavior. You might have selected the wrong word. It doesn't sound like rudeness. It sounds like intentional sabotage of a potential competitor. She sounds like the type who takes a picture of a pretty wild flower and then crushes it so that nobody else will get a picture of it. She may also be uncertain of her skills and didn't want to miss a good shot that you might have gotten. Or it might have been a situation of "I'm the pro here. Everybody else -- including the 'posers' with pro gear -- need to stay out of my way." None of these justify her behavior, of course.

Brian_R wrote in post #13421779
oh i totally agree with you 100%, i wish i was better at post processing but im almost positive that the blown grass in those 2 shots cant really be fixed but i am very happy with my ability to capture the action well considering my level of experience. if i continue shooting sports im pretty sure my style will change to be more efficient in guaranteeing as many keepers as possible since shooting in the sun for me had a great keeper rate but i dont think it would always be consistent every time. i do not see shooting sports professionally in my future so i am trying to have as much fun as possible while i am shooting since i shoot for my school and once i graduate i wont shoot it anymore unless the school offers to continue paying me as a freelancer

If you adjust (lower) the Lumiance of Green and Yellow, Then adjust the saturation of them, it will give you some improvement.