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Issues with CR2 images in Adobe RAW

 
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Nov 14, 2011 14:14 |  #1

So I just recently got into photography and have a T2i, and Ishoot in both Jpg and RAW. I like HDR a lot so that is why I shoot also in RAW. The problem comes when I open the RAW image in Camera RAW it tends to look off when I have certain shots like my computer which has Blue LED light Fans and Red as well. They look sharp and like they do in real life if I look at the jpg file or if I open the RAW file in dpp. Once Camera RAW gets a hold of the RAW images(not transfered from dpp) the colors look totally off and chunky with too much shadow and the lights look fake or painted in is the best I can describe it. Basically just not sharp and clear like in the Jpeg or the raw file in dpp. No matter what I do to it in camera raw with sharpen, clarity or color it never looks right. When transffered from dpp to CS5 it looks fine since it converts it to a Tiff, but I am wondering if doing this will still allow proper HDR processing. I Just figured this out yesterday that the CR2 files were not opening right in CS5. I was always wondering why the CR2 images when looked at in Camera Raw never turned out well,and looked dull at first. Most of the shots I have processed in CS5 have been outdoor shots of buildings and scenery. So I was not noticing the issues with lights not looking right. I understand that RAW allows you to adjust everything about the image and that it wont look as sharp right off the bat like a jpeg since it has already been sharpened in camera. It is just that nothing I do in RAW will get it to the same point.

Is there a setting that needs to be changed in CS5, or is it an issue with the way CS5 converts Canon Raw files? I read a review that mentioned something about Canon Raw files not opening properly in some photo editing software but they did not mention any names for some reason.


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Nov 14, 2011 14:43 |  #2

ACR (and LR) use the adobe defaults, and can't read the parameters you've set in camera.
Create your own default to mimic your camera settings.
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Nov 14, 2011 15:44 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #3

Well the only thing I changed in the camera was set sharoen to 7 in landscape mode. I did not change any color settings, and i leave the As shot selected in camera Raw. So what exactly do I have to change in Camera Raw to make it look like it should? The color setting in the camera is sRGB and I guess I am not sure if CS5 is converting it to adobe rgb or if that would matter. Is it possible to use TIFF for HDR processing?


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Nov 14, 2011 16:14 |  #4

A couple of things. In ACR try changing the camera profile setting in the "Calibration" tab from Adobe Standard to something like camera neutral. That should tame those super saturated colors that things like LEDs produce.

Second - YOU determine what color space your images leaving ACR have been rendered in. You can set this to AdobeRGB, sRGB, etc. using the little blue hypertext link thingymabobber in the ACR window.

Third, you can use TIFFs from raws to make HDR. In fact, as long as you do not make tonal adjustments that will mess up the relationship between the exposure in the exif and your pixel data you can make batch corrections in ACR to the raw data (like noise reduction, chromatic aberration correction, distortion correction, color rendering, etc.) and render to tiff for HDR merge. So, make sure you set all of the tonal adjustments to ZERO and the tone curve to linear and you should be good to go. I've made a preset that does all of this and I simply open all of the raws in ACR, apply the preset and render to 16 bit TIFF.

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Nov 14, 2011 16:19 |  #5

Thanks a bunch Kirk I will try this out tonight. Hope it worls. I saw another post about using the DNG profile editor, but that looks a little out of my wheel house right now.

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A couple of things. In ACR try changing the camera profile setting in the "Calibration" tab from Adobe Standard to something like camera neutral. That should tame those super saturated colors that things like LEDs produce.

Second - YOU determine what color space your images leaving ACR have been rendered in. You can set this to AdobeRGB, sRGB, etc. using the little blue hypertext link thingymabobber in the ACR window.

Third, you can use TIFFs from raws to make HDR. In fact, as long as you do not make tonal adjustments that will mess up the relationship between the exposure in the exif and your pixel data you can make batch corrections in ACR to the raw data (like noise reduction, chromatic aberration correction, distortion correction, color rendering, etc.) and render to tiff for HDR merge. So, make sure you set all of the tonal adjustments to ZERO and the tone curve to linear and you should be good to go. I've made a preset that does all of this and I simply open all of the raws in ACR, apply the preset and render to 16 bit TIFF.

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Nov 14, 2011 21:07 |  #6

That worked perfect thanks for the tip. I am teaching myself photoshop as well as photography all at the same time so I am missing things.

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A couple of things. In ACR try changing the camera profile setting in the "Calibration" tab from Adobe Standard to something like camera neutral. That should tame those super saturated colors that things like LEDs produce.

Second - YOU determine what color space your images leaving ACR have been rendered in. You can set this to AdobeRGB, sRGB, etc. using the little blue hypertext link thingymabobber in the ACR window.

Third, you can use TIFFs from raws to make HDR. In fact, as long as you do not make tonal adjustments that will mess up the relationship between the exposure in the exif and your pixel data you can make batch corrections in ACR to the raw data (like noise reduction, chromatic aberration correction, distortion correction, color rendering, etc.) and render to tiff for HDR merge. So, make sure you set all of the tonal adjustments to ZERO and the tone curve to linear and you should be good to go. I've made a preset that does all of this and I simply open all of the raws in ACR, apply the preset and render to 16 bit TIFF.

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Nov 14, 2011 21:57 as a reply to  @ HDR Fan's post |  #7

When the right question is asked - and the right person answers that question a LOT of people learn things they didn't know and some of us just by reading! LOL!!

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Nov 15, 2011 05:46 |  #8

HDR Fan wrote in post #13399146 (external link)
Well the only thing I changed in the camera was set sharpen to 7 in landscape mode. I did not change any color settings

Picture style "Landscape" is quite a drastic color change ;)

Try "Camera Landscape" as Camera Profile in ACR/LR.


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Nov 15, 2011 07:01 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #9

You have the capability of having the histogram show in live view...use it. But, take into consideration that the live view image, as well as that histogram is based on a jpeg rendition of the image which, in turn, is controlled by your in-camera picture style settings.
To get that LCD histogram to more closely "match" what pops up in ACR you need to move all the camera's "picture style" settings to the left as they in no way affect what you see in ACR but, they do affect that LCD histogram.
The advantage of using ACR is that you are in control of that image instead of the camera's software being in control. Do not at all understand why you prefer to save the jpeg images well as the RAW.


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Nov 15, 2011 07:31 |  #10

Once Camera RAW gets a hold of the RAW images(not transfered from dpp) the colors look totally off

This refers to Lightroom, but it is equally about ACR and worth reading:

http://www.lightroomfo​rums.net …hy-did-Lr-ruin-my-picture (external link)


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