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Dec 21, 2011 15:00 |  #3061

got my new monitor Sheldon, are you still waiting for yours ? :lol:


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Dec 21, 2011 15:01 |  #3062

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Thanks guys.

Considering how much of my stuff ends up in B&W, i really should consider Nik Silver, but does it do anything the normal B&W Adjustment layer in PS does not do already?

No, but it makes the adjustments easier.


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Dec 21, 2011 15:02 |  #3063

krb wrote in post #13580340 (external link)
No, but it makes the adjustments easier.

I would assume the quality of the adjustments is higher than in Lightroom as well? LR is fantastic for broad edits, but it really just doesn't have the fine grain detail that PS does for most adjustments.

I've found the B&W adjustments in Lightroom to be rather clunky.


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Dec 21, 2011 15:06 as a reply to  @ aaron.dunlap's post |  #3064

Hi Aaron,

I've explored a lot of different ways to convert and manipulate black and white images and I have to say that one of the best applications for black and white is Nik Software Silver Efex Pro 2.

There is a free 15 day trial available for Photoshop or Lightroom.


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Dec 21, 2011 15:32 |  #3065

I'll have to give it a try then, but it'd better carry drastic advantages over photoshop if its gonna earn my super-clamped dollars.


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Dec 21, 2011 15:36 as a reply to  @ Csae's post |  #3066

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got my new monitor Sheldon, are you still waiting for yours ? :lol:

Yes, rub it in why don't you.

I bet I have mine profiled before you do though. :)


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Dec 21, 2011 15:53 |  #3067

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I'll have to give it a try then, but it'd better carry drastic advantages over photoshop if its gonna earn my super-clamped dollars.

Like he said, there's a free trial available. They also have training videos on the site so that you can get a better idea of what it can do than you're likely to get from just playing with it.


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Dec 21, 2011 15:57 |  #3068

Finally got myself a deep octa 100cm, a boom stand (Manfrotto 420CSU) and a light meter (Sekonic L-358). Yay!

Now, that sandbag that comes with the stand... Uhh... Any idea how much sand I should buy to put in there? The maximum load extended is 5kg (what they mean by extended, I have no idea -- all the way extended with the middle of the boom arm on being locked in place or if it sticks more out to either side -- I hate (over)thinking).


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Dec 21, 2011 15:59 as a reply to  @ Riot NOR's post |  #3069

My recommendation is to not use sand. Use rocks, gravel, shot, BB's, etc.

Sand is messy and if you get a tear or spill it's going to ruin your day and potentially some gear.


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Dec 21, 2011 16:01 |  #3070

I'm not sure how sturdy the 420CSU is, but i would say for a counter-balancing sandbag, between 5 - 10lbs should be about right.

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My recommendation is to not use sand. Use rocks, gravel, shot, BB's, etc.

Sand is messy and if you get a tear or spill it's going to ruin your day and potentially some gear.

+1 A trip to a hardware supply store, you can find lots of decent bags of materials, i grabbed i think 40lbs of some fine gravel that is alot easier to clean up then sand for maybe 5$.


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Dec 21, 2011 16:07 |  #3071

Riot NOR wrote in post #13580673 (external link)
Now, that sandbag that comes with the stand... Uhh... Any idea how much sand I should buy to put in there?

I have a couple of small weight lifting plates, about a kilo each, in mine and that seems to work fine. Less chance of making a mess than using sand.

You are also going to want some weight to use as ballast on the bottom of the stand. Also, be aware that the stand is a compromise. It does more than a plain stand but it is not as strong as other boom stands. It is "strong enough" but you'll want to be careful about over extending it.


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Dec 21, 2011 16:14 |  #3072

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I have a couple of small weight lifting plates, about a kilo each, in mine and that seems to work fine. Less chance of making a mess than using sand.

You are also going to want some weight to use as ballast on the bottom of the stand. Also, be aware that the stand is a compromise. It does more than a plain stand but it is not as strong as other boom stands. It is "strong enough" but you'll want to be careful about over extending it.

I realize that it's not a full steel stand (two top are aluminum or something?), but I've used a full aluminum boom before and it was fine extended pretty decently away (the 420B I think the guy had).

Thanks for the help. I guess I'll ditch the sand and go find some rocks on the playground. :lol:

For those of you with the Deep Octa, do you use the deflector that comes with it? Do you use the inner diffusor or the outer (or both)?

PS: I read the manual for the L-358 and tried metering with the deep octa aimed straight at the subject. In my opinion, the light was a bit too overexposed. I only ever got 3 shots/readings off since I had to pack it away so that I can clean the house for christmas. I guess I will get better as soon as I get a chance to try it some more. :)


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Dec 21, 2011 16:15 |  #3073

Riot NOR wrote in post #13580673 (external link)
Finally got myself a deep octa 100cm, a boom stand (Manfrotto 420CSU) and a light meter (Sekonic L-358). Yay!

Now, that sandbag that comes with the stand... Uhh... Any idea how much sand I should buy to put in there? The maximum load extended is 5kg (what they mean by extended, I have no idea -- all the way extended with the middle of the boom arm on being locked in place or if it sticks more out to either side -- I hate (over)thinking).

Congrats!


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Dec 21, 2011 16:16 |  #3074

If i use both the outer and inner diffusers then i do not bother with the deflector, if i am only using the inner deflector then i may or may not use a deflector.


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Dec 21, 2011 16:17 |  #3075

Thanks, brah.

Now I need to hustle some money off of dead hookers to be able to afford the eggcrate grid. :D just kidding.

Sorta.


@Csae: Do you have a before and after picture showing the difference? My stuff is all packed away and have gone up into the attic. Christmas time is ruining my photospirits. :P I need a real studio. Screw homestudio in your livingroom.


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