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Oct 13, 2017 11:35 |  #10051

Unit they change the foil from flaking and costing more money to buy replacements I will stick my other brand I use now. This could be a reason for the close out and new stock coming in


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Oct 13, 2017 11:49 |  #10052

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Unit they change the foil from flaking and costing more money to buy replacements I will stick my other brand I use now. This could be a reason for the close out and new stock coming in

For someone who claims to have inside information.. you don't know much about Elinchrom that's for sure. The flaking of the foil was an issue years ago. It was fixed by the grey seems you now see at the edges of the hole where you mount the speedring.

I already stated the reasons why earlier in this thread, so no need to come with ignorant guesses.


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Oct 13, 2017 12:59 |  #10053

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For someone who claims to have inside information.. you don't know much about Elinchrom that's for sure. The flaking of the foil was an issue years ago. It was fixed by the grey seems you now see at the edges of the hole where you mount the speedring.

I already stated the reasons why earlier in this thread, so no need to come with ignorant guesses.


Sorry you got your butt hurt, but get over it.

I have old and newer version and i still have the same problems, but I guess I use my gear more then most.


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Oct 13, 2017 13:11 |  #10054

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Sorry you got your butt hurt, but get over it.

I have old and newer version and i still have the same problems, but I guess I use my gear more then most.

Nothing is hurt, but thanks for the consideration. Yeah that must be it... you must be a using them much more than all my colleagues and professionals that use the Rotalux boxes on daily basis... :rolleyes::-P

I pretty much have the whole range of rotalux boxes along with the litemotiv boxes I have had two Rotalux boxes purchased over a decade ago where the foil started to come off, got them both replaced by Elinchrom (just registered my products online) the warranty was void by years still they replaced them without any hassle.

So unless you have some more false information you want to share about Elinchrom i think we are done.


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Oct 13, 2017 21:29 |  #10055

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There are high quality grids available for just about every size of their softboxes from LT.

Which holds true for every brand as Lighttools will happily sell you their grids.

The major difference is for a lot of Elinchrom softboxes third party is the only choice and it more than doubles the cost of the softbox, I love the quality but it's still a nuisance.




  
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Oct 13, 2017 22:54 |  #10056

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Which holds true for every brand as Lighttools will happily sell you their grids.

The major difference is for a lot of Elinchrom softboxes third party is the only choice and it more than doubles the cost of the softbox, I love the quality but it's still a nuisance.

I’m Gonna buy some material, design and make one myself. Can’t be that difficult. Wife has a $1k sewing machine that should make short work of it.


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Oct 14, 2017 00:29 |  #10057

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Which holds true for every brand as Lighttools will happily sell you their grids.

The major difference is for a lot of Elinchrom softboxes third party is the only choice and it more than doubles the cost of the softbox, I love the quality but it's still a nuisance.

Well, not exactly but you can order a custom fit for less known brands.

While it certainly wouldn't hurt for Elinchrom to offer their own standard grids, I very much doub their own grids would be so much cheaper if they where to make them equal to the LT grids in terms of quality, rigidness, and ease of setup.

For me it's not really an issue as if find the Rotalux prices extremely competitive, and I'm not buying grids for my Indirect Litemotivs.. :-P


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Oct 14, 2017 00:29 |  #10058

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Nothing is hurt, but thanks for the consideration. Yeah that must be it... you must be a using them much more than all my colleagues and professionals that use the Rotalux boxes on daily basis... :rolleyes::-P

I pretty much have the whole range of rotalux boxes along with the litemotiv boxes I have had two Rotalux boxes purchased over a decade ago where the foil started to come off, got them both replaced by Elinchrom (just registered my products online) the warranty was void by years still they replaced them without any hassle.

So unless you have some more false information you want to share about Elinchrom i think we are done.


So your telling my opinion and my info is false becasue it don't match your opinion. Seams like we have come to impasse and until other people start talking were at a stalemate. Thank you for your input.


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Oct 14, 2017 00:41 |  #10059

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So your telling my opinion and my info is false becasue it don't match your opinion. Seams like we have come to impasse and until other people start talking were at a stalemate. Thank you for your input.

You'r entitled to your opinion of course, but we are not talking about opinion we are talking about facts regarding why the Deep octa was seemed to be replaced by a "new" version. Your guess was simply wrong, regardless of what opinion it's based on. Furthermore, i already stated why, so there really is no need for you to huff and puff your own theories.

Cute remarks like you use them more than most.. is amusing at best. I've used the Rotalux way before they were widely available in the states.


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Oct 14, 2017 20:53 |  #10060

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Sorry you got your butt hurt, but get over it.

I have old and newer version and i still have the same problems, but I guess I use my gear more then most.

Would this issue also involve the new LiteMotives...? I’m looking at that big 190cm.


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Oct 15, 2017 01:42 |  #10061

I've had it happen on one of my elinchrom litemotiv. Lets say sometime you might get a bad apple don't mean the whole batch is bad. Buy what works best for you and don't let other people tell you what to buy.

I was a big Eli user, but now moved to something that works better for me.


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Nov 27, 2017 02:02 |  #10062

Still using Elinchrom:).

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Nov 27, 2017 18:12 |  #10063

After over thirty five years of being a Multiblitz user (both 'P' & 'V' mount) I've decided to move (slowly) to Elinchrom, for reasons I won't bore people with! I'll still be keeping hold of my old lights, just intend to bolster my stock with Elinchrom now and jumped in at the two extremes, I have a D-Lite One & a ELC Pro HD 500. The One was bought as I needed a head with a small form factor and low power to use in those hard to get places and the 500 for its 'creative' modes, short recycle time and flash duration. I'm no stranger to using Elinchrom, having borrowed, hired or used them in other peoples studios over the years (as well a many other brands) so knew what to expect and certainly the controls were no mystery, though the 500 did take a quick read through the manual. As for modifiers, well I'll just get some speed rings for my current sofboxes and have already put together an EL to 'V' mount adapter (half an hour with a hack saw, file & drill to graft an old EL speedring onto a 'V' mount) so I can use some of my current modifiers;


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Nov 28, 2017 01:13 |  #10064

"I've decided to move (slowly) to Elinchrom, for reasons I won't bore people with!"

I don't think we would be bored.

Perhaps I'm too much of a lighting nerd and Elinchrom fan. :)


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Nov 29, 2017 06:57 |  #10065

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"I've decided to move (slowly) to Elinchrom, for reasons I won't bore people with!"

I don't think we would be bored.

Perhaps I'm too much of a lighting nerd and Elinchrom fan. :)

The main reason for the change was that although I use mostly 200ws units and only rarely need more power, at a recent shoot I just needed an effects light with just a bit more oomph. Now I do have a 930ws light, it is monstrously large & heavy and doesn’t use the Multiblitz ‘P’ mount but the larger more pro ‘V’ mount, so I bought a lower cost Multiblitz ‘P’ 500ws Profilite, however after nearly a year of use, I’m missing the fast recycle times and short flash durations of the Plus range that I currently use. So after a bit of procrastination decided to splash out £999 on a new ‘V’ mount X5 (500ws) head, only to find out when I went to order it the price had increased to a (for me) unjustifiable £1329! So spurred on to look elsewhere I kept coming back to the Elinchrom ELC Pro HD 500’s better specified, plus the creative modes and over £600 cheaper. Now I’d already purchased a D-lite One some time ago to use as a head to get into tight spaces with a few modifiers, also over the years I’ve used many Elinchrom units without any issues, so know them quite well operationally & felt it made sense to go down this route. I’ve no issue in mixing differing brands and over the years have indeed used; Bowens, Bron & Hensel amongst others. A quick look at the secondhand market shows that there is little chance of recouping enough cash on my Mutliblitz kit (due to their high cost & low market share in comparison to other brands) to make it viable for a wholesale switch of brands, so I’ll still be a Multiblitz user, but also an ELinchrom one as well, from now on.


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