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85L - why did you sell yours?

 
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Dec 04, 2011 09:41 |  #151

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I just sold mine because I got so sick of this thread, I'm now hoping it goes away!

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Dec 04, 2011 09:52 |  #152

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Yup. The B&S forums are absolutely jammed with used 85Ls. People hate them. It's a crap lens. I know I hate mine.

:rolleyes:

Trust me I have seen plenty of what the 85L can do and one thread is not going to change my opinion.




  
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Dec 04, 2011 11:58 as a reply to  @ david lacey's post |  #153

:rolleyes: I just had a look to ebay ... where are all these lenses sold for half price :confused: ...


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Dec 04, 2011 13:19 |  #154

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Useless at 1.2? I just got mine and i think it has a really nice quality at 1.2! Each to his own i guess...

Problems with F1.2 for me is way, way to shallow DOF for what I shoot. Bokeh is nice and all, but I find it distracting for product unless that is the look I am going for, but even then, F1.2 is still just to shallow to work with. The other photographer I at my work and I are always discussing portrait photographers using F1.2, the DOF is so small that one eye is perfectly in focus, and the other is OOF. We always laugh about how people love less DOF, and we are struggling to get more for our work. It is one of the many reasons why I shoot crop bodies and not FF. FF to me means less DOF, more distortion and crappy corners. But that is besides the point. DOF is my main issues, that and the CA wide open makes my black parts look blue which I can not have for product.

newworld666 wrote in post #13485516 (external link)
:rolleyes: F1.2 Useless ? ... o !

My 85L is my best indoor/outdoor/days/ni​ghts sport lens ... more versatile and reliable for sport when light is falling down than my 135L and 300L2.8 ;) ... So for a few years 85L @f1.2 is sticked to one of my bodies and 24L or 300L on the other body .
I don't imagine to loose IQ with a 85F1.8 on fullframe (for crops they is no diffrence due to canon crop limitations).
And what about AF speed ? .. 85L is fast an accurate on any AF points on 1D bodies and central AF point on 5DMKII, and of course it can catch and track any subjects at any speed with erratic movements or not ! you can do panning quite easily. so what more would you need with AF ?

I am shooting roller derby, and RC racing, as well as some other more erratic sports. The 85 F1.8 is more useful for those subjects and at least for me, F1.2-1.8 is really to shallow DOF for me and my hit rate is getting really low. With my 70-200mm F4L IS with strobe off camera at F5.6 is 90% hit rate for focus, the 85mm F1.8 at F2.2 is around 60% without strobe, and when I had the 85L, the hit rate at F1.4 with those subjects was around 15%, which to me is wasting my time and space to sort them. It also causes me to miss the shots that I need to tell the story of what is going on. You can use it for sports, but I am needing to get a high hit rate as I am needing those shots. I am also just for the record, freezing the action not panning or dragging the shutter.

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Dec 05, 2011 11:36 as a reply to  @ The Fox's post |  #155

Sold mine and bought Zeiss 85 1.4. I was a Zeiss fan , and saved some $$ in the process. :)


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Dec 05, 2011 11:54 |  #156

The Fox wrote in post #13493394 (external link)
I am shooting roller derby, and RC racing, as well as some other more erratic sports. The 85 F1.8 is more useful for those subjects and at least for me, F1.2-1.8 is really to shallow DOF for me and my hit rate is getting really low. With my 70-200mm F4L IS with strobe off camera at F5.6 is 90% hit rate for focus, the 85mm F1.8 at F2.2 is around 60% without strobe, and when I had the 85L, the hit rate at F1.4 with those subjects was around 15%, which to me is wasting my time and space to sort them. It also causes me to miss the shots that I need to tell the story of what is going on. You can use it for sports, but I am needing to get a high hit rate as I am needing those shots. I am also just for the record, freezing the action not panning or dragging the shutter.
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;) I got more than 90% in focus when shooting faster and more erratic movement with dogs and quadbikes than any human or cars on the road...
a 100 samples .. with near to 100% correctly focused
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It's more or less a urban legend that 85L can't focus as any other L lenses ..

We just need to train how to catch and keep a focus point on subject 's eyes or helmet ....

More over You get a huger range of freezing capabilities with f1.2 lens :D too..


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Dec 05, 2011 13:17 |  #157

p360 wrote in post #13498127 (external link)
Sold mine and bought Zeiss 85 1.4. I was a Zeiss fan , and saved some $$ in the process. :)

Killing yourself with MF now?


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Dec 05, 2011 13:23 |  #158

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Killing yourself with MF now?


loving it..!! :D


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Dec 05, 2011 13:36 |  #159

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loving it..!! :D

Say it to yourself....I do not believe you:-)


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Dec 05, 2011 16:43 |  #160

Well, shoot me. Or shoot Alex.

Yes, my fellow addicts, although I owned both versions of this lens in the past, as I've stated, and was never able to wring out the results I see so many accomplish, I couldn't resist the current sale at B&H and just ordered it. AGAIN.

I hate you all. :cry:

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Dec 05, 2011 21:24 |  #161

MDJAK wrote in post #13499661 (external link)
Well, shoot me. Or shoot Alex.

Yes, my fellow addicts, although I owned both versions of this lens in the past, as I've stated, and was never able to wring out the results I see so many accomplish, I couldn't resist the current sale at B&H and just ordered it. AGAIN.

I hate you all. :cry:

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It's such a fine lens.


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Dec 07, 2011 09:23 |  #162

Wow can't believe this lens is being dissed this way?

It's offending my little 85LII at home - it's crying out, look what I can do!

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Dec 07, 2011 09:53 |  #163

Decent shots- well done:-)


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Dec 07, 2011 12:29 |  #164

HOLY BALLS Smorter, they are shockingly good..... As a matter of interest, do you know what aperture the second one was shot at to have both eyes in focus?


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Dec 07, 2011 12:49 |  #165

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HOLY BALLS Smorter, they are shockingly good..... As a matter of interest, do you know what aperture the second one was shot at to have both eyes in focus?

EXIF shows 1.2. Both eyes are in focus because her face is more or less parralel to the lens.



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