Fuji ILC leaked

http://photorumors.com …mirrorless-camera-leaked/

Drooling already.

exciting!

Looks like it's nearly the camera I'd been hoping for.

- APS-C (probably good enough if they've kept it to 12-14 MP, and keeps the price lower than FF)
- hybrid viewfinder
- availability of fast Fujinon primes

Hopefully we'll see adapters for M-mount glass and/or the ability to easily use MF with the Fujinon glass. If so, and if the IQ I will buy this as a replacement for (or complement to, more likely) my Voigtlander Bessa R3A.

Man, I'd just like for someone other than Leica to come out with a DRF.

I know the masses aren't looking for one but there is a market for one, a company just needs to look at the used Epson R-D1/s/x market to see it. That and the M9 low ISO shadow noise sucks aside from the ludicrous price of one, plus I hope you have a spare in case it breaks(especially the sensor).

20DNewbie wrote in post #13402865
Man, I'd just like for someone other than Leica to come out with a DRF.

I know the masses aren't looking for one but there is a market for one, a company just needs to look at the used Epson R-D1/s/x market to see it. That and the M9 low ISO shadow noise sucks aside from the ludicrous price of one, plus I hope you have a spare in case it breaks(especially the sensor).

I agree, but that market is still incredibly small, relative to the DSLR market. There's a reason Leica charges what they do, and it's not all down to the name and the supposedly top-notch build quality.

True, but with the R-D1 still commanding 1k+, R-D1s 1.5K-2K, and the R-D1x around the 3K mark(last I had seen) the market is still viable even with the smallness of it. Hell, I'd buy one up to $2500 but that would be pushing my limit of longing for one. Who knows, maybe I'll just be done with it and get an R-d1s, I'd rather the x(newer tech + warranty and service life) but I'd like to be able to flip the screen as on the 1 and s.

Edit: The Epson.jp site has the x listed at 3,892.49 USD.

20DNewbie wrote in post #13402865
Man, I'd just like for someone other than Leica to come out with a DRF.

I know the masses aren't looking for one but there is a market for one, a company just needs to look at the used Epson R-D1/s/x market to see it. That and the M9 low ISO shadow noise sucks aside from the ludicrous price of one, plus I hope you have a spare in case it breaks(especially the sensor).

The market for true rangefinders is pretty small compared to the whole photography market, but I'm with you in that I wish somebody besides Leica would jump in. A Fuji + Cosina/Voigtlander collaboration would be fantastic. I just don't see it happening.

This new Fuji if executed properly could be a very nice substitute albeit without true rangefinder capabilities (guessing here). It would offer a large percentage of the appeal of Leica rangefinders--build quality, manual controls, simplicity--with the benefits (and drawbacks) of TTL focusing via EVF. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #13403179
The market for true rangefinders is pretty small compared to the whole photography market, but I'm with you in that I wish somebody besides Leica would jump in. A Fuji + Cosina/Voigtlander collaboration would be fantastic. I just don't see it happening.

This new Fuji if executed properly could be a very nice substitute albeit without true rangefinder capabilities (guessing here). It would offer a large percentage of the appeal of Leica rangefinders--build quality, manual controls, simplicity--with the benefits (and drawbacks) of TTL focusing via EVF. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

I completely agree.

The main thing that kept me away from the X100 was the (relatively) poor MF performance. I can live with the non-interchangeable lens, but not if I can't manually focus effectively.

Hopefully this Fuji ILC will allow for effective manual focusing. Even better would be if an adapter were created allowing the use of M-mount glass.

We shall see...

20DNewbie wrote in post #13402955
True, but with the R-D1 still commanding 1k+, R-D1s 1.5K-2K, and the R-D1x around the 3K mark(last I had seen) the market is still viable even with the smallness of it. Hell, I'd buy one up to $2500 but that would be pushing my limit of longing for one. Who knows, maybe I'll just be done with it and get an R-d1s, I'd rather the x(newer tech + warranty and service life) but I'd like to be able to flip the screen as on the 1 and s.

Edit: The Epson.jp site has the x listed at 3,892.49 USD.

That bothers me to no end. I'd kill for an R-D1 (gotta love manually cocking the shutter), but it has absolutely no business being so damned expensive! At $2500+, you'd be much better off just getting an M8. Those very occasionally go for less than $2k now!

I'll say this now, if this "LX" has either an APS-H sensor or an APS-C sensor with Foveon-style tech (i.e. this "organic sensor" Fuji is developing) and no AA filter, my SLR gear will be in the sell forum right quick.

cptrios wrote in post #13406359
That bothers me to no end. I'd kill for an R-D1 (gotta love manually cocking the shutter), but it has absolutely no business being so damned expensive! At $2500+, you'd be much better off just getting an M8. Those very occasionally go for less than $2k now!

I'll say this now, if this "LX" has either an APS-H sensor or an APS-C sensor with Foveon-style tech (i.e. this "organic sensor" Fuji is developing) and no AA filter, my SLR gear will be in the sell forum right quick.

That may be true, but I'd rather deal Epson Japan(through Dirk at Japan Exposures) for service issues than waiting who knows how long for something to come back from Solms. I've can't understand for the life of me why Leica shooters tolerate such lengthy body repairs other than being fanboys.

20DNewbie wrote in post #13406969
That may be true, but I'd rather deal Epson Japan(through Dirk at Japan Exposures) for service issues than waiting who knows how long for something to come back from Solms. I've can't understand for the life of me why Leica shooters tolerate such lengthy body repairs other than being fanboys.

http://en.leica-camera.com …us/photography/​index.html

If this stays under 1.5k, I'm getting it.

cptrios wrote in post #13406359
That bothers me to no end. I'd kill for an R-D1 (gotta love manually cocking the shutter), but it has absolutely no business being so damned expensive! At $2500+, you'd be much better off just getting an M8. Those very occasionally go for less than $2k now!

Why? What makes an M8 better than this?

themadman wrote in post #13408015
Why? What makes an M8 better than this?

Better than an R-D1, not the new Fuji!

cptrios wrote in post #13408068
Better than an R-D1, not the new Fuji!

Ah, I c