Adice on a new to me camera "Canon"

So, I am wanting to get more serious about photography. I currently have a Canon 10D. Just picked up a 70-200 L Lens. And now, am wanting to upgrade my camera. I will be buying it used. More then likely off of here or the dreaded Ebay. But here is my question.

Which one to buy?

I am not a professional and do not do a lot of portraits. Mostly family, vacations, sports, landscape, and wildlife. I was thinking a 50D or 60D but, I can pick up some of the more upper end (price wise) and really good deals.

What makes the EOS-1D Mark III cost soo much more then the 50D and it is only a 10 megapixel?
I know, it is more then one question but, any and all help will greatly be appreciated.

The 1D is a full frame camera, meaning the sensor is a genuine 35mm sized sensor. You will get a traditional field of view when using lenses, rather than a 'cropped' field of view that you'd get with a ***d series or **d series. I believe the full frame camera are the 5d and the 1d series.

I think most people will recommend you go full frame if you can afford to, the rest will recommend a 7d. Personally, I'd get a full frame if I could, though I've had no experience with one.

What sort if photography will you be doing? Are you hoping to go professional or sell some work?

Others will be along shortly to tell you which models have the quickest autofocus etc. I think the 60D should be a serious consideration.

Thanks. Not sure about trying to go professional. It would be great however.


And yes, eventually hope to sell some down the road as I get better.

The 1d is a 1.3 crop factor not full frame. The 1ds line is full frame.

danjama wrote in post #13432674
The 1D is a full frame camera,...

The 1DIII and earlier are not full frame sensors. They are still crop sensors though they are larger than APC sized. The 1Ds cameras are FF.

PeteD wrote in post #13432468
...What makes the EOS-1D Mark III cost soo much more then the 50D and it is only a 10 megapixel? ...

The build of the camera is more robust, there are many additional features only available on the 1D line, much better, faster, more accurate auto focus, built in grip, and other things.

you dont have to jump in to the newest cameras...I have been using the 30D for weddings for a few years now and just moved up to a couple of 40D bodies. There are a lot of good deals to be had on those 2 bodies and they will probably do you fine for a couple years til you are limited by what they can do.

Ah, thanks for the correction fellas. Forgot about that.

Well then!

I won't delve into trying to help you choose a particular body, there are various very good options available and you'll get all kinds of recommendations.

As to the 1D3, well, it comes from the line of "professional" 1D bodies, meaning it is designed to deliver high performance and comes with a rugged build meant to "resist" the elements as well as take a bit more of a "beating".

What this all means is that it serves well as a "workhorse" for either pros involved in things such as sports shooting, event shooting, photojournalism, fields where you need the ruggedness and the high performance and overall reliablility. It delivers a high frame rate, 10 frames-per-second, which means a lot for certain types of shooting. It has a sophisticated Auto Focus system that can be "fine tuned" for shoots that demand not just a fast AF but also one that can be configured for a variety of shooting challenges. Also, it has a built-in "grip" that carries a large, long-lasting battery -- you can shoot, well, a lot of shots off of one charge, so for instance a sports shooter can fire away without worry.

And then, there is the "serious amateur" like me, who will also be shooting demanding things. Common areas are wildlife/birds, sports, street shooting, events, many times overlapping the pros, and for many the 1D3 is also a "camera of choice. Anyone engaged in outdoor shooting a lot can appreciate the weather resistance and the ruggedness, and the same applies to the performance features.

Also, the image quality is very good, including a good high ISO/low noise performance. I've never shot a 50D, but I know of folks here who have found the need for better high ISO performance, and the 1D3 would deliver well.

But, it's heavy -- the "main" body is bigger/heavier than the 30D even without the built-in grip, so the whole thing is considerably bigger and heavier than the 30D/40D/50D. For some people, it's too much. In fact, for my day-to-day shooting, I tend to favor one of my other bodies that is lighter/more compact. I also have a 30D, by the way, although my "go to" camera for a walkabout is the 5D "Classic" -- bigger than the 30D but still less big and heavy than the 1D3 (the 1D3 is about as big as a 5D with an added grip).

Like I said, there are numerous good offerings out there! So really, it's up to you to figure out where you want to go with your photography and so what do you really want in a camera, and then factor in the various features of the various bodies available.

And, by the way, as far as a higher performance very capable body goes, you could consider the Canon 7D. It has newer features than the 1D3 and also has many of the same Auto Focus "strengths". It is said to have quite good IQ and can be used at a very high ISO.

And, it's a smaller, lighter body than the 1D3. It's more expensive than the 50D or 60D, so take your time in deciding, like I said, what you really want/need to carry out your photographic aspirations!

danjama wrote in post #13432674
The 1D is a full frame camera, meaning the sensor is a genuine 35mm sized sensor. You will get a traditional field of view when using lenses, rather than a 'cropped' field of view that you'd get with a ***d series or **d series. I believe the full frame camera are the 5d and the 1d series.

I think most people will recommend you go full frame if you can afford to, the rest will recommend a 7d. Personally, I'd get a full frame if I could, though I've had no experience with one.

What sort if photography will you be doing? Are you hoping to go professional or sell some work?

Others will be along shortly to tell you which models have the quickest autofocus etc. I think the 60D should be a serious consideration.

Assuming that the OP did not mis-speak, the 1D3 is not a full-frame body, it is an APS-H or "1.3 crop" body.

Now, the 1Ds MkIII, which is a full-frame body, is another beast entirely!

Some very good info in here for sure.

So, even though the mark III is less on the megapixels, it would still be a better camera?

Also, you guys are more then welcome to throw in other bodies as well. These are just a couple I was looking at. As stated, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

It isn't the quantity of megapixels it is the quality.

I think you should go to a camera shop and get a feel for a few, then the ones you like the most, go home and research them.

I know that doing this helped me a lot!

There's nothing "wrong" with the cameras that have a lot of megapixels. In fact, Canon and other camera makers work hard to deliver high resolution sensors without throwing Image Quality out the window. In fact, the successor to the 1DM3, the 1D MkIV, has 16 megapixels, and it also has a good reputation for image quality!

And, if you know how to work with the super megapixel cameras and their images, you can get excellent photos.

So really, you can't lose with the current models as long as you pick one that meets your photographic needs.

If you'd like to stick with what you know, the 50D would be familiar to you right off the bat. Other improvements over the 10D would be a larger LCD screen, microadjust for adjusting your lenses to the body, faster shooting, better ISO handling to name a few.

50D is a pretty nice body and would be a significant upgrade. Being in the same family, you should be pretty familiar with how it works from day one.

dave

danjama wrote in post #13432848
I think you should go to a camera shop and get a feel for a few, then the ones you like the most, go home and research them.

I know that doing this helped me a lot!

I have. And to be honest, it is overwhelming. All of them "feel" great because of the layout of the controls.

You go into the stores around here and they all say the more the megapixels, the better the photo. For me, I believe that there is more to it then that.