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Nov 22, 2011 19:54 |  #1

Is the devil! It's the half right now and I will post pictures when I get home. Good news is that the AD approved the use of strobes and a remote behind the glass.


I'm also not use to basketball. My thing is football and soccer lol.


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Nov 23, 2011 18:09 |  #2

You HAVE liability insurance for strobes and a remote correct?

Safety cables, know how to set them up...?

Ambient basketball is fine, strobes work better in some places, but many it's fine and depends what you need them for. I'd rather shoot strobed over not, but not if say it's a newspaper assignment then screw the strobes.


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Nov 23, 2011 18:50 |  #3

Just starting out shooting basketball while adding strobes and a backboard remote at the same time? This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

I forget... it this just for a newspaper? Most newspaper shooters here go to a high school game shoot for about 10 min then head to the next high school game. If you are shooting for the school or even maxpreps/selling prints it might be worth it if you are getting more sales with strobes / remotes.

Are you going to sync the remote to the strobes?


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Nov 23, 2011 19:18 |  #4

MJPhotos24 wrote in post #13442795 (external link)
You HAVE liability insurance for strobes and a remote correct?

Safety cables, know how to set them up...?

Ambient basketball is fine, strobes work better in some places, but many it's fine and depends what you need them for. I'd rather shoot strobed over not, but not if say it's a newspaper assignment then screw the strobes.

Yep, Liability "$1,000,000/year" and insurance on all the equipment. I just manufactured my safety cables today. The wire I used is rated at 200lbs which is over kill for a 20lb strobe.

I'm going to be using strobes because I was not happy with the lighting at my first game and I want to be able to market it to the parents too.


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Nov 23, 2011 19:23 |  #5

Cozmocha wrote in post #13442915 (external link)
Just starting out shooting basketball while adding strobes and a backboard remote at the same time? This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

I forget... it this just for a newspaper? Most newspaper shooters here go to a high school game shoot for about 10 min then head to the next high school game. If you are shooting for the school or even maxpreps/selling prints it might be worth it if you are getting more sales with strobes / remotes.

Are you going to sync the remote to the strobes?

Right now, just for the newspaper but I want to have a well lit picture that I can market to parents and whatnot.

Also, I want some well lit strobbed basketball pictures for my port. I'm not too worried about the remote, it wont be that hard to attach and I'm using safety cables. I plan on going to a practice and setting one up and testing it out.

I was thinking about syncing the remote to the strobes but was not sure how to do it. I don't want the strobes and the remote on the same ch because I don't want the remote to be filled with useless photos. I plan on using my 8-15 fisheye on the remtoe and its max aperture is f/4


We all got to start somewhere, right?


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Nov 23, 2011 19:30 |  #6

One thing to add to what Mike said is don't forget the lexan covers to catch the glass in case one of your bulbs blow.


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Nov 23, 2011 19:36 |  #7

I think it has been asked before, but, is your newspaper agency allowing you to also sell the photos? Does the newspaper care that you are using them for access and special permission? Does the AD know that you are shooting for the paper AND to sell photos?


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Nov 23, 2011 19:44 as a reply to  @ NewEnglandPhotographer's post |  #8

BLD_007 wrote in post #13443033 (external link)
I just manufactured my safety cables today.

Yeah I would recommend ditching those and purchasing cables designed as safety cables.




  
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Nov 23, 2011 19:47 |  #9

Luke J. Photography wrote in post #13443134 (external link)
Yeah I would recommend ditching those and purchasing cables designed as safety cables.

the ones I made are exactly like the ones used for safety cables. I worked as a theater grip a few summers ago.

Also, the strobes I have "white-lightings" don't have any place to attach a cable. I had run the wire through one of the umbrella holes then I attached the the hooks to the ends. I will post pictures after awhile. The ones you buy would be too big to go through the hole because they already have the hooks on the end.


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Nov 23, 2011 20:04 |  #10

homemade safety cables = fail. I see legal issues in your future.


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Nov 23, 2011 20:19 |  #11

The words homemade and safety don't belong together.




  
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Nov 23, 2011 20:41 |  #12

Guys, don't worry. I have used safety cables before. I have secured things 100x heaver than the strobes that I'm going to be using.

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Like I said before, anything pre-made would not fit through the hole. There is no other option to secure the strobes that I use. The strobe weighs under 10 pounds. Everything is rated at 30x that.

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Nov 23, 2011 21:19 |  #13

if something were to happen, and your insurance company investigates into the claim and finds that you used
homemade safety cables, you made be screwed.


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Nov 23, 2011 21:24 |  #14

ewheeler20 wrote in post #13443495 (external link)
if something were to happen, and your insurance company investigates into the claim and finds that you used
homemade safety cables, you made be screwed.

I don't know any other way to safely secure the strobe. Again, anything I have found that is pre-made wont fit through the hole.

if you know a better solution, please let me know.


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Nov 23, 2011 22:03 |  #15

BLD_007 wrote in post #13443521 (external link)
I don't know any other way to safely secure the strobe. Again, anything I have found that is pre-made wont fit through the hole.

if you know a better solution, please let me know.

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