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Nov 26, 2011 00:55 |  #1

Testing some pp- let me know how you feel about it.

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Nov 26, 2011 05:19 |  #2

For me personally, it looks like an iPhone app style processing? I think it makes your images look soft.


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Nov 26, 2011 05:31 |  #3

The shots on the left appear more 'real' to me than the ones on the left, and so I like them more. I'm guessing that the ones on the right are the processed shots?




  
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Nov 26, 2011 06:49 |  #4

Yes the photos on the left are RAW right out of the camera, the ones on the right are PP - my client has asked me for this style, soft, blown out, with not much darkness. Im still working on perfecting the effect.

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Nov 26, 2011 06:52 |  #5

frugivore wrote in post #13452853 (external link)
The shots on the left appear more 'real' to me than the ones on the left, and so I like them more. I'm guessing that the ones on the right are the processed shots?

on of your lefts should be a right, am I right?


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Nov 26, 2011 08:20 |  #6

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on of your lefts should be a right, am I right?

Yes, you are right. The left on the right should be a right, while the left on the left is right. :D




  
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Nov 26, 2011 08:32 |  #7

Not much really to comment about. Very subtle variations of ordinary photos.


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Nov 26, 2011 08:39 |  #8

highway0691 wrote in post #13453155 (external link)
Not much really to comment about. Very subtle variations of ordinary photos.

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Nov 26, 2011 09:02 |  #9

The change isn't dramatic, but the right ones appear to me to be softer and warmer. While that can make for nice portraits, it tends to work against detail shots (which both of those are) IMO.


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Nov 26, 2011 09:07 |  #10

frugivore wrote in post #13453132 (external link)
Yes, you are right. The left on the right should be a right, while the left on the left is right. :D

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Nov 26, 2011 09:45 |  #11

The lefts have it for me, too- but the difference is really pretty subtle.


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Nov 26, 2011 09:50 |  #12

Peacefield wrote in post #13453244 (external link)
The change isn't dramatic, but the right ones appear to me to be softer and warmer. While that can make for nice portraits, it tends to work against detail shots (which both of those are) IMO.

ahh, I will keep that in mind - thank you. What would you recommend as PP for details, something that I am getting asked more and more, a modern-vintage type look that brides see in the magazines. I do agree that this PP looks great on portraits.


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Nov 26, 2011 12:21 |  #13

NivoMedia wrote in post #13453373 (external link)
ahh, I will keep that in mind - thank you. What would you recommend as PP for details, something that I am getting asked more and more, a modern-vintage type look that brides see in the magazines. I do agree that this PP looks great on portraits.

That's a hard question to answer, mostly because now your talking about the definition of your personal style and even what should govern it.

For me, when it comes down to the detail shots, I don't look for the PP to give me my look, it's all about the way I shoot them: the angle, the use of light, framing, and other concepts. For PP of details, I tend to do little more than some sharpening and maybe adding some clarity as needed, but it's the photography and not the PP that defines my look.

It's also worth noting (here's the philosophical part) that I don't let my clients define my look, I define my look and clients seek me out because it resonates with them. So I'm never struggling to try to create a look that they're asking for; I have my look and that's exactly what they want when they hire me.


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Nov 27, 2011 11:03 |  #14

If a client is asking for these I'm guessing they are keen on the whole vintage
Photo fad. I like your lhs photos better, bevause they are clean and sharp. Rhs is warm and fuzzy, haha. I would be tempted to try to save them from themselves by providing both the vintage effect, and the classic, clean shot that won't fall out of vogue in 5 or 10 years. Quite easily solved by having your own personal style of processing that the client can take it or leave it.

In short, I don't mind the effect, but considering the request deeper, I think the clients will be sorry they asked for it eventually, and it's up to you to lead them and influence them into proper decision making. :). In fact, if they are sophisticated enough, you can show them this test and show them how clean and sharp the originals are and what that style of processing does.


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Nov 27, 2011 20:10 |  #15

Peacefield wrote in post #13453876 (external link)
That's a hard question to answer, mostly because now your talking about the definition of your personal style and even what should govern it.

For me, when it comes down to the detail shots, I don't look for the PP to give me my look, it's all about the way I shoot them: the angle, the use of light, framing, and other concepts. For PP of details, I tend to do little more than some sharpening and maybe adding some clarity as needed, but it's the photography and not the PP that defines my look.

It's also worth noting (here's the philosophical part) that I don't let my clients define my look, I define my look and clients seek me out because it resonates with them. So I'm never struggling to try to create a look that they're asking for; I have my look and that's exactly what they want when they hire me.

albertaskater wrote in post #13457675 (external link)
If a client is asking for these I'm guessing they are keen on the whole vintage
Photo fad. I like your lhs photos better, bevause they are clean and sharp. Rhs is warm and fuzzy, haha. I would be tempted to try to save them from themselves by providing both the vintage effect, and the classic, clean shot that won't fall out of vogue in 5 or 10 years. Quite easily solved by having your own personal style of processing that the client can take it or leave it.

In short, I don't mind the effect, but considering the request deeper, I think the clients will be sorry they asked for it eventually, and it's up to you to lead them and influence them into proper decision making. :). In fact, if they are sophisticated enough, you can show them this test and show them how clean and sharp the originals are and what that style of processing does.


I agree with both of you, but since this is my main source of income - I do not have the freedom to sell my own style exclusively, as much as I want to :D

Thank you for everyone's input.


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