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Nov 29, 2011 16:14 |  #1

I have been looking for a compact,strong,simple solution to using my qr plate as well as having access to my Blackrapid strap without having to fiddle around.The FastenR-T1 is a good solution for Manfrotto plates,but will not fit on the smaller arca swiss plates.What I have come up with is using my Markins plate which has a slot built in and using an Adapt-its connector in that slot.The only thing that might be a concern is the long term strength of the Adapt-its adapter,from all the information I could find it seems to be trouble free,and it has passed my unscientific strength test.Pic should help describe better,sorry for the poor cell phone quality.......


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Nov 29, 2011 16:23 |  #2

Now THERE'S an interesting solution...I just screw/unscrew the BR Brad into the hole that is shown there; but this would be even less trouble. Have to check into these!

Thanks for the idea :)


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Nov 29, 2011 19:16 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #3

That's certainly one way to adapt the BR strap to an Arca Swiss plate.

What I did was attach the Black Rapid FastnR to an Arca Swiss clamp I bought from Kirk Photo. If I need to put the camera on the tripod, I just remove the clamp from the camera plate and I'm good to go.

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Nov 29, 2011 20:57 |  #4

JWright wrote in post #13470930 (external link)
That's certainly one way to adapt the BR strap to an Arca Swiss plate.

What I did was attach the Black Rapid FastnR to an Arca Swiss clamp I bought from Kirk Photo. If I need to put the camera on the tripod, I just remove the clamp from the camera plate and I'm good to go.

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How is it better than just unscrewing FastenR-3 from Arca Swiss plate?




  
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Nov 30, 2011 01:53 |  #5

You don't unscrew anything with that setup. The AS clamp stays on the strap and he just unclips the camera from that clamp and mounts it to his tripod.


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Nov 30, 2011 05:32 |  #6

Snydremark wrote in post #13472587 (external link)
You don't unscrew anything with that setup. The AS clamp stays on the strap and he just unclips the camera from that clamp and mounts it to his tripod.

I know we are splitting hairs here,but you still have to unscrew the clamp itself as well as having the bulk of an extra clamp.The other way you just slap it on the tripod as is;)




  
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Nov 30, 2011 11:52 |  #7

Really, the only difference is the added mass of the clamp; either way one has to unscrew SOMETHING to get the camera off the strap and onto the tripod. I like your solution better as it's more compact; but the release knobs on those AS clamps is much faster to loosen/tighten than the BR clip is.


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Nov 30, 2011 13:27 |  #8

Like the OP mentioned my concern would be the long term strength of the Adapt-its adapter. I don't really want to place the fate of my camera and 70-200 2.8 MII on that rubber loop. I have a similar clamp that JWright posted but its from ReallyRightStuff.




  
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Nov 30, 2011 14:13 |  #9

Snydremark wrote in post #13474330 (external link)
Really, the only difference is the added mass of the clamp; either way one has to unscrew SOMETHING to get the camera off the strap and onto the tripod. I like your solution better as it's more compact; but the release knobs on those AS clamps is much faster to loosen/tighten than the BR clip is.

The way the strap is connected in the OP,you do not have to remove the strap to connect it to the tripod,just plunk it on the tripod with the strap attached,that's it's advantage if you consider it one.As for strength,a clamp is not intended to be used in that way as it could come loose.For that reason it's not recommended to leave your camera on the tripod and carry it on your shoulder.




  
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Nov 30, 2011 14:19 |  #10

Andrew_WOT wrote in post #13471482 (external link)
How is it better than just unscrewing FastenR-3 from Arca Swiss plate?

The FastenR has been known to unscrew itself if not properly installed (with moisture on the rubber washer) and drop the camera. :cry:

When attached to a AS Clamp, you can Loctite the FastenR in place and not have to worry. :D

Plus, opening the clamp is much quicker than fiddling around with mounting/unmounting the FastenR from the camera each time you use a tripod. ;)




  
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Nov 30, 2011 14:27 |  #11

wookiee2cu wrote in post #13474761 (external link)
Like the OP mentioned my concern would be the long term strength of the Adapt-its adapter. I don't really want to place the fate of my camera and 70-200 2.8 MII on that rubber loop. I have a similar clamp that JWright posted but its from ReallyRightStuff.


pretty much my thoughts.

I know this has been debated before but I'm in the camp that if you are using your tripod the time it takes to unscrew the BR loop is of no consequence


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Nov 30, 2011 16:27 as a reply to  @ You-by-Lou's post |  #12

Andrew_WOT wrote in post #13471482 (external link)
How is it better than just unscrewing FastenR-3 from Arca Swiss plate?

Quicker...

Snydremark wrote in post #13474330 (external link)
Really, the only difference is the added mass of the clamp; either way one has to unscrew SOMETHING to get the camera off the strap and onto the tripod. I like your solution better as it's more compact; but the release knobs on those AS clamps is much faster to loosen/tighten than the BR clip is.

^^That...

dfarina wrote in post #13474996 (external link)
The way the strap is connected in the OP,you do not have to remove the strap to connect it to the tripod,just plunk it on the tripod with the strap attached,that's it's advantage if you consider it one.As for strength,a clamp is not intended to be used in that way as it could come loose.For that reason it's not recommended to leave your camera on the tripod and carry it on your shoulder.

With this setup, I'd probably do something like placing the camera on the tripod without taking the strap off and then step away from the tripod, pulling the whole mess after me... :confused:

hfgarris wrote in post #13475026 (external link)
The FastenR has been known to unscrew itself if not properly installed (with moisture on the rubber washer) and drop the camera. :cry:

When attached to a AS Clamp, you can Loctite the FastenR in place and not have to worry. :D

Plus, opening the clamp is much quicker than fiddling around with mounting/unmounting the FastenR from the camera each time you use a tripod. ;)

Perzactly... My FastenR is Loctited to the clamp, therefore I have to remove the clamp/strap combination from the camera before placing it on the tripod.


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Nov 30, 2011 20:38 |  #13

hfgarris wrote in post #13475026 (external link)
The FastenR has been known to unscrew itself if not properly installed (with moisture on the rubber washer) and drop the camera. :cry:

When attached to a AS Clamp, you can Loctite the FastenR in place and not have to worry. :D

Plus, opening the clamp is much quicker than fiddling around with mounting/unmounting the FastenR from the camera each time you use a tripod. ;)

Never had any problems with that and sure the issue is overblown, but if that's a concern you can go with smaller and lighter safety tether.

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Nov 30, 2011 22:07 |  #14

Andrew_WOT wrote in post #13477058 (external link)
Never had any problems with that and sure the issue is overblown, but if that's a concern you can go with smaller and lighter safety tether.
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I never had a problem in the early days of using the R-Strap either (prior to using the QR-Clamp).

But that solution is just more stuff to mess with when attaching or removing the strap. Plus, it appears from your picture that the rubber washer under the FastenR really isn't seated very well to prevent the rotation which leads to the unexpected release.

I find the quick-release clamp to be simple, quick, and secure for my usage.




  
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Nov 30, 2011 22:32 as a reply to  @ hfgarris's post |  #15

I think the ultimate solution would be if a manufacturer made a plate that had a small loop built in that came out the side just large enough to fit the BR connector.I just don't like the idea of a quick release clamp,it could loosen and let the camera slide out for a ride.




  
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