Thanks for the feedback and explanations.
Nov 12, 2005 15:12 | #16 Thanks for the feedback and explanations. Canon 30D
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | Nov 13, 2005 08:41 | #17 For some reason when I went to Samy's photo thye said I should get a 3way head instead of a ballhead for shooting motorosports. Would anyone know why? I didn't really ask into to much detail as I was there to pickup something else and was in a hurry.
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dml Hatchling 6 posts Joined May 2005 More info | CPALIU wrote: I've thought about the monopod, but I would also like to be able to mount a camcorder on the tripod which is why I'm looking for a good compromise with the tripod. If you really intend to use a camcorder a significant amount of time you might want to investigate a fluid damped three way head. It will give you a much smoother pad & tilt movement when shooting.
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Scottes Trigger Man - POTN Retired 12,842 posts Likes: 10 Joined Nov 2003 Location: A Little North Of Boston, MA, USA More info | Nov 14, 2005 07:03 | #19 For a camcorder a 3-way can make more sense, since it will lock the panning in any one of the 3 angles. I guess. But dml has a very good suggestions - a fluid 3 way could be a good compromise for both the long lens and camcorder. Though I'd want to test it to make sure that it can pan fast enough - I know that the one and only fluid head I tried was a little slower to move than I would have liked for action with a long lens. Fluid and smooth, heck yes, but for action with a long lens I'd want very quick maneuverability. You can take my 100-400 L away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | dml wrote: If you really intend to use a camcorder a significant amount of time you might want to investigate a fluid damped three way head. It will give you a much smoother pad & tilt movement when shooting. No the camcorder wont be the primary use. It will maybe make up 5-10% of the total use.
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ToddJacobsen Senior Member 704 posts Joined Mar 2005 Location: Colorado More info | Nov 15, 2005 17:14 | #21 I'm just getting used to my ball head. I like the "control" a 3-way head provides but that can be somewhat combersome as well. 3-way heads tend to be more "sticky" in movement. Todd Jacobsen
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | Scottes wrote: I also have the Bogen 410 compact gear head. Now *this* is a wonderful 3-way with none of the normal problems of a 3-way, and nothing but benefits. Except that you can't pan freely, which might be a desired thing at times. And the price blows your budget, since this head is $190 alone. This is by far my favorite head for telephoto panos. It's awesome for this. The 3047 isn't expensive and will do just fine for you. But don't be surprised if it isn't perfect, and don't be surprised if you replace it in a year. But I would strongly suggest the 3437 that John mentioned, for a very similar price. It has none of the drawbacks of the 3-handled 3-ways. If I had gotten that one I probably never would have gotten the 410 gear head since the 3437 is a keeper. Would you have a recommendation thats in between the 3437 and the 410? The 3437 doesn't have quite the load capacity that I would want while the 410 is simply out of my budget.
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Scottes Trigger Man - POTN Retired 12,842 posts Likes: 10 Joined Nov 2003 Location: A Little North Of Boston, MA, USA More info | Nov 15, 2005 20:39 | #23 I checked through B&H and couldn't find anything that I'd be interested in. I'd go with the 3437 - the 6.6lb capacity will be more than enough for a 300D and any lens you'd use on this rig. Any lens that's too big or heavy for this head will most likely cost you well over $1,500. By that point you'll also be able to afford a bigger better more expensive head - and you'll have a much better idea of what you want. You can take my 100-400 L away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | Scottes wrote: I checked through B&H and couldn't find anything that I'd be interested in. I'd go with the 3437 - the 6.6lb capacity will be more than enough for a 300D and any lens you'd use on this rig. Any lens that's too big or heavy for this head will most likely cost you well over $1,500. By that point you'll also be able to afford a bigger better more expensive head - and you'll have a much better idea of what you want. the 3437 would work well with a 100-400 L lens on a 20d? What about if I added the battery grip? I believe the 20d with the 100-400 L lens is around 5 lbs?
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Scottes Trigger Man - POTN Retired 12,842 posts Likes: 10 Joined Nov 2003 Location: A Little North Of Boston, MA, USA More info | Nov 15, 2005 21:32 | #25 24.2 oz + 10.2 oz + 48 oz = 82.4, or 5.2 lb - plenty of room. Also, the Bogen stuff has a tendency to be under-rated in my opinion. It's solid stuff. And since the 100-400 has a tripod ring the balance will be nice - it's easier to support a balanced rig rather than one that's decidedly lens-heavy. You can take my 100-400 L away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | Nov 15, 2005 21:50 | #26 great! thanks for all the help. I'll probably just pick it up at the local Samy's camera store since they sell everything at the same price as BH, just i get taxed instead of shipping but it works out the same +/- $5 anyways.
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CPALIU Member 75 posts Joined Sep 2005 More info | Nov 21, 2005 10:23 | #27 Just picked up the 3021bpro and the 3437 from Samy's Camera. Love the combo! Thanks for all the help to everyone.
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SYS Cream of the Crop More info | Nov 21, 2005 12:21 | #28 I recently received the 3021B Pro and the 3047 combo. I stumbled across this thread topic AFTER having ordered these. I now can see why some of you do not like the 3047. It's unwieldy and darn heavy!! It's about 8 lbs as a combo without the camera and the lens sitting on top. BUT, apart from these two inconvenient features, I liked everything about it. First, it looks really nice on top of the 3021, yes, it's esthetically pleasing. Second, it's built like it's going to last you a lifetime of usage. You could easily use the combo as your defensive weapon in case someone became too enamored with you camera gears.
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Scottes Trigger Man - POTN Retired 12,842 posts Likes: 10 Joined Nov 2003 Location: A Little North Of Boston, MA, USA More info | CPALIU wrote: Just picked up the 3021bpro and the 3437 from Samy's Camera. Love the combo! Thanks for all the help to everyone. Excellent! Let us know a little more after a shooting session or two. You can take my 100-400 L away when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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DocFrankenstein Cream of the Crop 12,324 posts Likes: 13 Joined Apr 2004 Location: where the buffalo roam More info | SYS wrote: So while the downside to the combo is that I won't be lugging these things while hiking miles into the wilderness, it's nevertheless an excellent combo in terms of solid built and looks. You can say THAT again... I barely take my tripod out. National Sarcasm Society. Like we need your support.
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