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Dec 07, 2011 11:31 |  #1

The latest "winter project"...I saw the idea in the 100mm L macro thread done by Maggie_B and figured what the heck, got all the stuff I need to try it myself...sadly I sold my 100mm L a while ago so I'm stuck using the lenses I have, which isn't so bad but I sure miss that lens...


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Dec 09, 2011 14:57 |  #2

Here's a "creative" interpretation of one of the shots...


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Dec 09, 2011 15:13 as a reply to  @ katodog's post |  #3

Excellent!


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Dec 09, 2011 15:19 |  #4

Wow, these look great! Really like the processing here. The 'creative' one made me laugh out loud, although that one looks great too.


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Dec 09, 2011 15:22 |  #5

OMG!!! Awesome! Love them all, the creative did make me laugh :)


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Dec 09, 2011 15:29 |  #6

I wonder if I should have put that in Glamour-n-Nude...


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Dec 09, 2011 15:33 |  #7

This is cool. Do you have a "how to" on this project? I would love to try something like that.


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Dec 09, 2011 15:49 |  #8

Yes, I actually do...


Okay, rough and tumble walk-through...


You first need something for the glass to slide on, but if given enough thought I imagine you could get similar results simply by sliding a glass on the table and abruptly stopping it. I used the sliders from the keyboard shelf of an unused computer desk. You know, the keyboard shelf that always flies out of the desk and falls on the floor when you pull it out. If you have the wood to do it you can just screw the sliders that go on the desk walls to two pieces of wood, then screw the wood to a base piece. I used 1"x2" pieces for the sliders so I had to design it kinda backwards, put the drawer sliders on the mount and the wall sliders on the sliding part.

But anyhow, however you put it together all it needs to do is slide free. You then put something in the way at the end of the travel to stop the platform, not only to give you the splash but also to keep the platform from flying off the tracks, which it will do.

My setup is basically just the platform on the sliders, and a 3" drywall screw wrapped with electrical tape to act as a stop. To attach the glass I originally used double-sided foam tape, but after a while the glass cut loose and almost hit the floor. Now I use the double-sided foam tape to mount the glass, and then I use two pieces of electrical tape to hold it down secure. So far this has worked perfectly, even for the bigger slams.


Sorry, shot these with the Fuji bridge camera...


Setup from the left...

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Setup from the right...

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The sliders and platform...

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And a shot to show that there really is not much of a mess created. Most of the water stays in the glass, but on the harder slams some of it flies over the glass and hits the platform. So far nothing has even come close to hitting the floor. The platform gets wet, and so do the sliders, but it's easy to pull the platform off and wipe everything down.


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Don't ask about camera settings or flash power, so far I've been back and forth with different settings trying to keep the background white and the glass from getting blown out. I would bet if I had a decent softbox that I could light the background perfectly without losing the glass. But, I'd say most of the time camera settings are ISO200, f/8, 1/250 or 1/200 exposure. Flash power has gone from 1/16 to 1/64, still haven't quite nailed-down the best approach with the flash. If my other flash unit would refresh fast enough I wouldn't have any problem at all.

That was copy-pasted from the write-up I did on our local forum, so there's a little bit of extra info to add...

Today I was testing out a few things, checking to see if I could use a softbox to light the background. I made a decent-sized softbox and aimed it at the background, hoping to keep the background white without blowing out the glass. Worked decent, but I had to keep flash power up around 1/4, and my flash wouldn't refresh fast enough at that power to pop every time the shutter tripped. I wound up taking the make-shift softbox off and just aimed the bare flash again, but put the glass and slider contraption a little bit farther away from the background.


Seems that a good distance from the background and a good amount of light hitting the background makes it possible to keep the background white without blowing out the glass. I'm about to take another run at some shots, so I'll let you guys know in a bit how it works out.

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Dec 09, 2011 15:51 |  #9

Give me a few minutes, I thought it'd be a good idea to add a few of the originals so you could see what they looked like before processing...


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Dec 09, 2011 15:58 |  #10

Here's three original shots, kinda shows how the background has been looking as I've progressed. It takes a bit to get me a pure white background so I'm trying to figure out the best lighting situation. I'm sure people with lighting and multiple flash units can do it a lot easier than me. I'm stuck using my 550EX because my other flash, a Digital Concepts Pro ETTL, won't refresh fast enough, even at 1/16 power, to keep up which each click of the shutter.

The makeshift softbox seemed to be a good idea but I'm shooting in my office and space is limited so I couldn't really move the subject far enough away from the background to make the softbox effective enough to use.

One of the first shots, with the flash aimed at the background...

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Kind of the same, but with this shot I kinda played with the position of the flash to give me the best amount of coverage, and I had a piece of cardboard stuck to it to shield the glass from the spillover light...

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This one was with the glass farther from the background, which allowed me to blast the background and get most of the area I wanted in the final shots to be white. There was a lot less processing involved to get from this to a pure white background...

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Dec 09, 2011 19:34 |  #11

This is awesome. Thank you so much! What is that attached to your camera and flash?


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Dec 09, 2011 20:21 |  #12

Just a wireless trigger, YongNuo CTR-301P which I bought on eBay.


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Dec 10, 2011 19:57 |  #13

Coolaid gatorade or powerade?


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Dec 10, 2011 20:08 |  #14

Anything will work, water and food coloring, Gatorade, booze, etc.. I'm actually using a little bit of my daughter's Listerine, which is blue and bubble-gum scented. To get different colors I just use the Hue/Saturation/Lightne​ss adjustment and change the color.

The only difference would be #5, which was milk with a little bit of the Listerine mixed in.


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Dec 10, 2011 20:12 |  #15

Here's a few latest ones...


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