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Help correct green spotlight on skin - preferably in LR3

 
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Dec 08, 2011 20:49 |  #1

Took some photos at a show this past weekend, trying to wrap them up now.

The spotlight was all sorts of different colors all night. It added a lot to the show, but it made the photography hard. Fortunately, there were a few white reference points in the background that helped me clean it up.

I want to do something better with this one, but I've just about hit the limit of my expertise. I'm reasonably proficient in LR3 but still mostly a novice in Photoshop. I'd like to keep the work in LR3 but if I have to work in CS5 for this particular image, so be it. The performer will be grateful to have it.

My effort so far: Based on picking a WB reference from other photos from this performance, I pushed the Tint slider all the way to the right (+150), and ticked up the Temp slider from 5200 to 6750. Then I went into HSL and changed the Hues as follows: 0, -20, -35, -80, -100, -20, 0, 0, 0.

The original:

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Moxie.20111203.1422-2.jpg (external link) by nathancarter (external link), on Flickr

My edit:
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Here's her other performance with the blue spotlight - hopefully this gives a little bit of reference for skin tone, though the lighting on this one was pretty colorful too. I picked the white stocking in the background for white balance

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Moxie.20111203.1225-2.jpg (external link) by nathancarter (external link), on Flickr

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Moxie.20111203.1225.jp​g (external link) by nathancarter (external link), on Flickr

Well, there's always this - but I don't want to convert the whole performance to B&W:

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Dec 10, 2011 12:19 |  #2

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Dec 10, 2011 16:15 |  #3

Good luck. With strongly artificial light sources, the wavelengths of light available aren't there to give you good color balance with any sort of tweaking at all. The best you can hope for is an appealing selection of false color.

For the green pic, you need a better skin tone target; it's way too yellow right now. For the second pic, the fabric in the lower right is clearly messed up colorwise; you're essentially working with a picture with no red in it at all and fabricating it when using white balance.


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Dec 10, 2011 19:41 |  #4

Can you upload the raw file for the green image?

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Dec 11, 2011 17:08 |  #5

I think this will work for the raws.

I included another image that isn't a "keeper" but has some white reference points in the background.

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Dec 11, 2011 19:20 |  #6

Thanks for uploading the files. This is the kind of shot where you find out that not all raw conversion applications are created equal. The green shot demands the ability to shift the RGB channels significantly to bring them into "neutral" alignment. I tried several of my converters and the only one that could really handle the adjustment without making a mess of the details was Raw Photo Processor - not surprising if you have ever used it. Here is a screen shot of the conversion with the settings - because there is no neutral I used RPP's Auto WB:

IMAGE: http://kirkt.smugmug.com/Photography/Photo-of-the-Day/i-zjPJh7h/0/X3/RPPWB2a-X3.jpg

I also rendered the conversion with a Portra 160NC film curve, and decreased the exposure slightly to manage the highlights on the subject's skin. The skin tone lacks color, but that can be brought out with subsequent processing - I started with a very neutral conversion here. What is also evident is the mixed strong lighting, with magenta highlights on the underside of the model's limbs. Nightmare.

Anyway, this kind of shot requires a high precision raw conversion with the ability to shift the RGB channels appropriately - this is similar to the kind of shot one would balance following the use of UniWB. Not all converters can handle that either.

RPP is Mac-only and is free - I strongly encourage you to donate to the developer if you use it. In addition to the high quality conversion, it also has built-in camera profiling and several other workflow helpers/batch processing. It is my go to conversion tool 90% of the time. It is lean and awesome without the bloat of Lightroom. As you can see here, it does not have noise reduction built-in, but there are plenty of tools to do that after the conversion.

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Dec 11, 2011 19:31 |  #7

Here is the other image with the mixed lighting.

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Dec 11, 2011 21:56 |  #8

Kirk,

Many thanks for the info and the brief tutorial. I'll give RPP a shot, though it may be a bit beyond my capabilities right now to understand what I'm doing well enough to make her skin look "real"

You're right that the lighting is a nightmare - there are overhead lights that cycle through blue, pink, and white; and there's a spotlight that's a different color for every number. You can see in the second shot, the overhead lights were probably pink in at least part of the number. Still, it's better than the previous venue they performed at, which had practically no lighting except for a projector that either showed the venue's logo (ouch), or a plain blue screen (double ouch!)


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