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Dec 09, 2011 23:43 |  #31

melcat wrote in post #13521574 (external link)
Not strictly true. Cigarette smoke can damage electronics, if it gets in. A "smell" is nothing more than chemicals evaporating and drifting onto the sensors in your nose.

I would like to think, and your experience does bear it out, that the camera is well enough sealed against cigarette smoke. Surely if they want to sell them in China, Canon tested this.

Certainly with its UV filter the lens should be fine.

True, I missed that point. But i don't think the OP should be that worried lol. You'll do fine.


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Dec 10, 2011 00:06 |  #32

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Well, that would be nice but this is the artist that started my sleeves so I have to have him finish. Tattooists won't go behind each other to finish something someone else started and most won't touch coverups which I'm having several of as well.

So I'm stuck with this one for now. Once he's finished what he's started however, I do plan on going to a new artist out of town for new, additional work. This one is moody and finicky and we've had personality clashes.

Dee Ann - my daughter has sleeves on both arms and her chest done. She was bummed when the fellow who started moved to Colorado - last year she flew there for a week for him to finish up something with it. She was very picky about having him do it, no one else could do it (according to her).




  
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Dec 10, 2011 00:35 |  #33

i photograph car burnout comps and i don't have any issues




  
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Dec 10, 2011 02:38 |  #34

smoke vs ink in your body? camera will be fine


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Dec 10, 2011 03:39 |  #35

ROGERWILCO357 wrote in post #13521932 (external link)
smoke vs ink in your body? camera will be fine

Tattoo ink is medically inert and sterile. Cigarette smoke is a poisonous, toxic carcinogen that leaves a film of tar on everything it touches.


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Dec 10, 2011 03:52 |  #36

There's stuff called "gaffer's tape" which is used on film sets to tape down cables etc. Its main property is that it can be removed from equipment without leaving a residue. Stills photographers also use it in studios. I can easily buy it locally, but it might be an ask to find it in a small town in Texas.

You might use it on obvious ingress points like the battery door. That looks completely unsealed on my 5D, but you have the later model which is said to be better sealed.

It sounds like this would produce some interesting shots.




  
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Dec 10, 2011 04:57 |  #37

If you're going to get paranoid about smoke particles then you'd better make sure that you wear your face mask and keep your camera hermetically sealed on your way to and from the tattooist. That's because diesel engines produce masses of ultrafine particles - far, far, more than any smoker could possibly generate.


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Dec 10, 2011 05:52 |  #38

tkbslc wrote in post #13518359 (external link)
A week of second hand smoke is nothing. Hell a week of first hand smoke is nothing. You guys are a bit paranoid.

Society as a whole has become a bunch of worry-wart hand-wringers who seek instant gratification.


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Dec 10, 2011 06:41 |  #39

Well it's obvious that smokers have their opinions and non-smokers have entirely different opinions.

irregardless, I'm going to try my best to seal the camera as best as I can. I have very strong opinions about smoke/smoking. And I have first hand experience, I was a 3 pack a day chain smoker for most of my adult life. I quit 15 years ago and I am very much anti-tobacco now. No offense to any smokers out there but I paid a LOT of money for my camera and I'm going to do my best to take care of it in every way I can.

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Dec 10, 2011 08:37 as a reply to  @ Dee_Ann_2012's post |  #40

The smoke is not going to hurt your camera, at all. Not even a little bit. If you don’t like the environment, don’t go there. I'd be more concerned about how your tattoo artist will feel when you show up with your expensive toy hermetically sealed to protect against his nastiness... I don’t know your relationship with the guy, but tattoos are a fairly personal thing and I am pretty sure I wouldn’t want the guy permanently injecting ink into my body offended by my potentially insulting actions. Go someplace else. This is sort of like pissing off your barber as he's cutting your hair, except with potential more severe results. You’re unlikely to get his best work in this situation and you cannot return it if you’re unhappy with it.

It’s just a camera and it was made to be used. If you can’t use it when and where you are likely to get shots you want, why did you buy it?


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Dec 10, 2011 08:59 |  #41

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The smoke is not going to hurt your camera, at all. Not even a little bit. If you don’t like the environment, don’t go there. I'd be more concerned about how your tattoo artist will feel when you show up with your expensive toy hermetically sealed to protect against his nastiness... I don’t know your relationship with the guy, but tattoos are a fairly personal thing and I am pretty sure I wouldn’t want the guy permanently injecting ink into my body offended by my potentially insulting actions. Go someplace else. This is sort of like pissing off your barber as he's cutting your hair, except with potential more severe results. You’re unlikely to get his best work in this situation and you cannot return it if you’re unhappy with it.

It’s just a camera and it was made to be used. If you can’t use it when and where you are likely to get shots you want, why did you buy it?

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Dec 10, 2011 10:12 |  #42

Dee_Ann_2012 wrote in post #13522227 (external link)
Well it's obvious that smokers have their opinions and non-smokers have entirely different opinions...

I'm not a smoker, never have been, and I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke, and personally prefer to not be around it. However, I also appreciate good science and ridicule junk science, especially when it is combined with fear-mongering. In large part the campaign against second-hand smoke is anchored in junk science, and is proclaimed with unverifiable hyperbole and fear mongering.

Yes, your clothes and possibly camera bag and other porous things will smell of cigarette smoke after a day in the tattoo parlor. No, your health won't be affected, and neither will the proper operation of your camera and lenses.

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Dec 10, 2011 10:36 |  #43

melcat wrote in post #13521574 (external link)
Not strictly true. Cigarette smoke can damage electronics, if it gets in.

Bunkum.

Yes, that's why all electronic equipment used to instantaneously die in the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's - when most people smoked almost everywhere. Oh, wait! No, it didn't! Why not?

The mass spec group of VG had a genius working for them called Brian Green and he smoked more than any other person I've ever met. His keyboard had burn marks from where he'd left a lit cigarette on the side. His monitor didn't have a film on the front, it had an encrustation. But this guy worked on the latest electronic gear with never a problem caused by smoke.


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Dec 10, 2011 11:03 |  #44

I have seen smoke damage to electronics, but I think it would take years to have any affect.

I will say that smoke did a nice job of changing the color of the vinyl covering on the music amps we pulled from a bar. They had been there, in use over 20++ years. Well a few of the amps were that old. We thought it had a Gold colored covering, turns out it was a silver colored covering coated by residue from smoking. Man that had to be on heck of a smoky bar ... but then again the stuff was there for two decades and more.




  
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Dec 10, 2011 11:06 |  #45
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RTPVid wrote in post #13519141 (external link)
Is it possible to get a tattoo in a place where people are NOT smoking? :lol:

Most of canada if not all bans smoking in businesses and indoor public areas, even in cars with children under 15..it's very nice.

To OP, you'll be fine, I've shot around bonfires directly in the path of smoke with both weather sealed and non weather sealed lenses and cameras without issue.


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