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Dec 09, 2011 17:01 as a reply to  @ post 13520265 |  #16

Congrats on the lens.

Your post just got me thinking of shooting my family as well. I really hate having to rely on the tripod to get all of us - makes it really time consuming to get creatively framed shots.


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Dec 09, 2011 17:05 |  #17

drewjoseph wrote in post #13520187 (external link)
Almost everything on the most recent entry of my blog is with the 35L or 135L.

The 35L is going to give you better everything over the kit lens... Don't use a tripod, move around to get the shot man!

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The OP is planning on being in the photo too, hence their plan to use a remote to fire the shutter with the camera on the tripod. If the OP doesn't use a tripod, I doubt their arm is long enough (let alone the goofy framing) to get all three people in the shot by hand-holding the camera;)


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Dec 09, 2011 17:58 |  #18

I agree with chimping ahead of time to get the desired dof. The LCD on your camera will help you dial in the setting you desire.

There are also DOF calculators - such as this one - http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link).

There is an interesting movement called strobist - it is about off camera flash and may be of interest to you as you explore photography. http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com …/welcome-to-strobist.html (external link)

You can also read about bokeh which allows for nice out of focus areas. A general tip is to place distance between your subject and the background. This portrait was taken infront of a very old brick wall last summer.

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Dec 09, 2011 21:37 |  #19

adamg5 wrote in post #13519956 (external link)
Wide open im afraid the 35 will put one of us in focus and the rest no so much.

adamg5 wrote in post #13519972 (external link)
I figure in Manual mode or AV mode start at say 4.5?

I think that's really overkill?

f/1.4 is fine for 3 people. Just focus on the person closest to the camera and make sure the others aren't too out of the focal plane.

It's overkill to use f/4.5 - I mean look at these 2 photos below, these are at f/1.2, and have even more than 3 people, so I'm sure if I can get these people in at focus at f/1.2, f/1.4 is no problem.

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And to prove it with the 35L, here are some examples at 35 f/1.4:

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Dec 10, 2011 00:26 as a reply to  @ smorter's post |  #20

Thanks for all your help here on the forum....I think it went better than I expected. Using a tripod and remote is tough because the little one would not look at just the camera. If a person was behind the camera making funny faces etc trying to make him laugh I'm sure it would of went way smoother. I ended up rubber banding a toy cow to the camera to try and get him to look at the camera, but he would not smile :) I'll post a few pics, be kind it's my first try. I just downloaded aperture 3 free trial and used it help with the editing....
Hopefully when the new baby comes in February I can practice some newborn portraits.....C&C welcome

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Dec 10, 2011 09:40 |  #21

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Dec 10, 2011 14:56 |  #22

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Looks really sharp, with great lighting. Can you share lighting techniques and what camera body you using?
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Dec 10, 2011 15:06 |  #23

adamg5 wrote in post #13523680 (external link)
Looks really sharp, with great lighting. Can you share lighting techniques and what camera body you using?
thanks,
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Sharpness is all relative. To me they don't look sharp not the face for sure. Some other parts in the pictures are sharp. Lighting looks simple ambient nothing more IMHO.


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Dec 10, 2011 15:11 |  #24

If you're going to shoot wide open, be sure the faces are on the same focal plane. Nothing wrong with a tripod. Try not to focus and recompose.


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Dec 10, 2011 15:51 |  #25

#1 Crop tighter and straighten
#4 I don't get this type of photo but there is a lot in this world I don't understand.

Cute kid, nice photos, you will really, really appreciate them in later years.


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Dec 10, 2011 15:53 |  #26

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#1 Crop tighter and straighten
#4 I don't get this type of photo but there is a lot in this world I don't understand.

Cute kid, nice photos, you will really, really appreciate them in later years.

thanks for the C&C, much appreciated. I didn't realize #1 was a little crooked. The tripod was sitting on gravel...


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Dec 10, 2011 16:05 |  #27

straightened hows this crop?

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Dec 10, 2011 17:56 |  #28

Adam, I think you did a great job! Especially for your first time out with this lens. Nice work!

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Dec 10, 2011 18:05 |  #29

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Adam, I think you did a great job! Especially for your first time out with this lens. Nice work!

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Thanks sooo much, it's a big confidence builder to hear that....


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Dec 10, 2011 18:23 |  #30

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I think that's really overkill?

f/1.4 is fine for 3 people. Just focus on the person closest to the camera and make sure the others aren't too out of the focal plane.

It's overkill to use f/4.5 - I mean look at these 2 photos below, these are at f/1.2, and have even more than 3 people, so I'm sure if I can get these people in at focus at f/1.2, f/1.4 is no problem.

The focal plane is more forgiving when you are a good distance away from the subject (i.e., using 85mm or more for full-length shots on full frame).

The focal plane is also more forgiving when shooting at wide angles (i.e., 35mm or less on full frame).

So yes, in those instances shooting below f/2 can yield acceptable results. But the initial concern was that the posing might require two rows of people.




  
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