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Need help blowing out the floor, white backdrop.

 
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Dec 13, 2011 20:20 |  #1

Hi all, need some help here. I dislike shooting on white, specially for the following reason: How do you blow out the floor without it looking fake? Take a look at the following shots, you'll see what I mean..

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(Setup isn't exactly the same, but switch that speedlight in the softbox for a B1600 in a 48'' octobox).

Would buying some ''white tile board'' help me out?

Any other tips, recommendation? With a shot like this, what would you do in post to make it look more real?

Thanks for your help everyone :)

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Dec 13, 2011 20:39 |  #2

Im not sure if it will help the floor but every white seamless tutorial Ive seen isnt blownig the back background to the point of blown exposure. Also, some white tile board from Home Depot will go a long way for "grounding" your subject. The rest can be taken care of using the dodge tool in post.


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Dec 13, 2011 20:49 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #3

For me i don't try and blow out the floor at all, I prefer a shadow or reflection on the floor.

When i shoot on white seamless I have two strobes on the back ground.

I have one strobe for main and another for fill a total of four.

You can't light a white setup and subject with only one light.


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Dec 13, 2011 20:54 |  #4

JakAHearts wrote in post #13541124 (external link)
Im not sure if it will help the floor but every white seamless tutorial Ive seen isnt blownig the back background to the point of blown exposure. Also, some white tile board from Home Depot will go a long way for "grounding" your subject. The rest can be taken care of using the dodge tool in post.

Thanks for that Jak. I'm usually going for a pure white look on the background, I don't want to see a variation when they get posted on the net on a white background.

So you think a tile board will help me out?


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Dec 13, 2011 20:55 |  #5

Sure. See here. http://www.zarias.com …torial-part-1-gear-space/ (external link)

Try aiming each flash at the other side of the paper so that you have more even coverage due to inverse square law. :D


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Dec 13, 2011 20:56 |  #6

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For me i don't try and blow out the floor at all, I prefer a shadow or reflection on the floor.

When i shoot on white seamless I have two strobes on the back ground.

I have one strobe for main and another for fill a total of four.

You can't light a white setup and subject with only one light.

I would also prefer a natural shadow or even better, a reflection. I also use three or four light, see the above setup shot.


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Dec 13, 2011 20:59 |  #7

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I would also prefer a natural shadow or even better, a reflection. I also use three or four light, see the above setup shot.

Youll find that reflection with the tile board. :D


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Dec 13, 2011 21:03 |  #8

Yup, but gotta have a place to store it after :|


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Dec 13, 2011 21:13 |  #9

JakAHearts wrote in post #13541209 (external link)
Sure. See here. http://www.zarias.com …torial-part-1-gear-space/ (external link)

Try aiming each flash at the other side of the paper so that you have more even coverage due to inverse square law. :D



That's not a bad idea, didn't thought of that! Thanks ;)

I'll re-read the tutorial once more, but I'm starting to know it by heart :p

Still haven't found what to do with my floor on this shoot tho :|


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Dec 13, 2011 21:15 |  #10

The other thing that stands out about the shot is that she is very distorted which doesnt help with the "fake" look. Do you have room to shoot a longer focal length?


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Dec 13, 2011 21:23 |  #11

JakAHearts wrote in post #13541305 (external link)
The other thing that stands out about the shot is that she is very distorted which doesnt help with the "fake" look. Do you have room to shoot a longer focal length?

Yes, I do have room. But it was a ''test'' shooting, not a paying client. Therefor I'm trying different things, like using my 16-35 on a crop and stepping on a ladder to get a different angle/perspective. Always shooting from 15 feet away with the 70-200 makes for some serious boringness shot after shot.. :|

Also, here's I line I might have missed:

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Note that without that tile board, the white floor area is grey. Getting a subject standing on white paper and shooting a full length shot so that the floor and the BG are all white is a pain in the arse... Call me lazy but $20 worth of tile board makes life easy.

I think there's my problem :p


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Dec 14, 2011 11:20 |  #12

Also, be prepared before going to Home Depot to pick up that white tile board. I picked up two sheets, got it out to my car and went, "Uh oh!" Those 4'x8' sheets seem a lot bigger when you're trying to fit them in your vehicle!


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Dec 14, 2011 11:26 |  #13

LoL at the above. I put mine on the top of a Scion Xa! Very small car. It looked ridiculous but it worked.


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Dec 14, 2011 11:48 |  #14

Bringing it back home is fine, but where/how do you store it ??? :p


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Dec 14, 2011 11:50 |  #15

You could cut it and hinge it pretty easily. There might be a small seam but nothing a few seconds of PS wouldnt take care of. That, or put it between your mattresses.


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