Thinking about getting the 2x III to use on my 70-200 2.8 and 300f4, can anyone tell me from personal experience if it's any sharper than the previous version? Thanks!!
rockygarcia Senior Member 391 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2009 Location: Orange County, CA More info | Dec 20, 2011 11:04 | #1 Thinking about getting the 2x III to use on my 70-200 2.8 and 300f4, can anyone tell me from personal experience if it's any sharper than the previous version? Thanks!! 1DX | 17-40 F4L | 24-70 2.8L | 50 1.8 | 85 1.8 | 200 2.8L for sale | 70-200 2.8 IS IIL | 300 F4L | 100-400L | Kenko Pro 300 1.4x DGX | 2x Canon Tele III | 430EXII
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LarryWeinman Goldmember 1,438 posts Likes: 66 Joined Jul 2006 More info | Dec 20, 2011 12:03 | #2 Yes it is but I can't speak for the lenses you have listed. I have used mine on my 70-200 f 2.8 Mk II and on my 300mm f 2.8 and get excellent results, better than the previous version 2X. Keep in mind that if you use the 2X on your 300mm f4 you will wind up with an f8 lens and it will not AF on your 5d II. 7D Mark II 6D 100mm f 2.8 macro 180mm f 3.5 macro, MP-E-65 300mm f 2.8 500mm f4 Tokina 10-17mm fisheye 10-22mm 17-55mm 24-105mm 70-300mm 70-200 f 2.8 Mk II 100-400mm Mk II 1.4 TCIII 2X TCIII 580EX II 430 EX II MT 24 EX Sigma 150-600
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Dec 20, 2011 12:53 | #3 According to SLRgear.com it is only sharper at the edges and in the corners. A German test confirmed that too (Traumflieger). The III version however has way better CA control. SONY A7RIII | SONY A7III | SONY RX10 IV | SONY RX100 | 24-70 2.8 GM | 70-200 2.8 GM | 16-35 F/4 | PZ 18-105 F/4 | FE 85 1.8 | FE 28-70 | SIGMA 35 1.4 ART | SIGMA 150-600 C | ROKINON 14 2.8
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Dec 20, 2011 14:30 | #4 Yes, there are a couple of tests on the net I've seen that go into great detail on this TC.
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rockygarcia THREAD STARTER Senior Member 391 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2009 Location: Orange County, CA More info | Dec 20, 2011 15:35 | #5 Larry Weinman wrote in post #13574126 Yes it is but I can't speak for the lenses you have listed. I have used mine on my 70-200 f 2.8 Mk II and on my 300mm f 2.8 and get excellent results, better than the previous version 2X. Keep in mind that if you use the 2X on your 300mm f4 you will wind up with an f8 lens and it will not AF on your 5d II. Thanks for the info! Do you know if the 300 will AF on my 7d? 1DX | 17-40 F4L | 24-70 2.8L | 50 1.8 | 85 1.8 | 200 2.8L for sale | 70-200 2.8 IS IIL | 300 F4L | 100-400L | Kenko Pro 300 1.4x DGX | 2x Canon Tele III | 430EXII
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rklepper Dignity-Esteem-Compassion 9,019 posts Gallery: 2 photos Likes: 14 Joined Dec 2003 Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA. More info | Dec 20, 2011 15:49 | #6 the f/2.8 version would, but not the f/4 version. rockygarcia wrote in post #13575135 Thanks for the info! Do you know if the 300 will AF on my 7d? Doc Klepper in the USA
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orena Senior Member 544 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2009 Location: eilat, israel/ chicago More info | Dec 20, 2011 16:14 | #7 so a 50 1.4 with an extender gives me a 100 f2.8 huh? never thought of that... Always do right, this will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
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windpig Chopped liver More info | Dec 20, 2011 17:10 | #8 orena wrote in post #13575322 so a 50 1.4 with an extender gives me a 100 f2.8 huh? never thought of that... Ya, but you're going to amplify any IQ issues the 50 1.4 has. Would you like to buy a vowel?
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Dec 20, 2011 17:26 | #9 After getting my 70-200 f/2.8 II, I also wanted a set of extenders. And even though the digital picture review Results with the Extender 2x III are overall slightly sharper than the Extender 2x II with a difference being most noticeable in the mid-frame and corner areas. The 2x II added pincushion distortion to the lens it was used with whereas the 2x version III adds slight barrel distortion. Anomalous dispersion glass elements are used in the Series III extenders to reduce chromatic aberration and increase resolution and contrast. The Extender 2x II did not have an issue with CA and neither does the III. The Extender 2x III has Canon’s Super Spectra coating for reduced ghosting and flare. The front and rear elements have Canon's fluorine anti-smear coating - making them very easy to clean. I could not justify the price difference. The primary advantage (IMHO) of the IIIs over the IIs, and I suspect the more significant reason for the large price difference, is the improved AF when paired with the new 'Super' telephotos. Also from that same review: Not available as I create the Canon EF 2x III Extender review are the announced: Canon EF 300mm f/2.8 L IS II USM Lens, Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 L IS II USM Lens, Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS II USM Lens and Canon EF 600mm f/4 L IS II USM Lens. Improvements in the Series III extenders promise to perform especially well on these specific lenses. A microcomputer integrated into the Series III Extenders promises faster autofocusing and increased AF precision when used with the Canon IS Supertelephoto Series II lenses mentioned above and (I expect) all future compatible lenses. Better optical quality is also expected. Note that "AF precision remains the same as the Series II Extenders when the Series III Extenders are used with earlier extender-compatible EF lenses." [Canon] I did not notice any differences in this regard. I recall from the press release when the IIIs were announced, that AF capabilities of the IIIs when paired with a lens that was not on that list (i.e., that predated that list) would be identical to that of the IIs. 7D | 300D | G1X | Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 | EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 | EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro | EF 85mm f/1.8 | 70-200 f/2.8L MkII -- flickr
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amfoto1 Cream of the Crop 10,331 posts Likes: 146 Joined Aug 2007 Location: San Jose, California More info | Dec 20, 2011 22:53 | #10 Per Canon, the "improved AF precision" of the Mark III teleconverters is accomplished by slowing down AF by about 25%. Alan Myers
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LowriderS10 Cream of the Crop 10,170 posts Likes: 12 Joined Mar 2008 Location: South Korea / Canada More info | Dec 20, 2011 23:48 | #11 Has anyone actually tried to AF on either of those bodies? I've managed to get my camera to AF at f/11 (stacked converters), even though it's not supposed to AF at anything slower than f/8...just saying -=Prints For Sale at PIXELS=-
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rockygarcia THREAD STARTER Senior Member 391 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2009 Location: Orange County, CA More info | Dec 21, 2011 01:43 | #12 amfoto1 wrote in post #13577110 With any 2X on 300/4, the lens becomes an effective 600mm f8 and will not auto focus on either 7D or 5DII. The 2X III seems particularly well matched to the 70-200/2.8 IS Mark II. Thank you amfoto1, That was very helpful!! 1DX | 17-40 F4L | 24-70 2.8L | 50 1.8 | 85 1.8 | 200 2.8L for sale | 70-200 2.8 IS IIL | 300 F4L | 100-400L | Kenko Pro 300 1.4x DGX | 2x Canon Tele III | 430EXII
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chomish Goldmember 1,917 posts Joined Jun 2007 More info | Dec 21, 2011 01:48 | #13 Yes it is sharper and has been giving me great results on my 70-200 2.8 II. IMO it is giving me sharper images than my Canon 100-400 and the reason why I bought it.
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EdwinHerdman Senior Member 747 posts Joined Aug 2011 More info | Dec 21, 2011 04:13 | #14 amfoto1 wrote in post #13577110 Per Canon, the "improved AF precision" of the Mark III teleconverters is accomplished by slowing down AF by about 25%. This is not as big a deal as you might expect, especially with longer lenses and farther focus distances where the focus group has less distance to travel compared with shorter lenses. The shortest lens you can fit any of the Canon teleconverters to is the 135/2. Wrong - it fits various TS-E lenses just fine, including the TS-E 17mm and the TS-E 90mm f/2.8 (though sharpness with the 90mm seemed lacking, with the 2X Mark III).
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CanonBob Goldmember 2,063 posts Likes: 52 Joined May 2007 Location: Poitou-Charentes, France More info | Dec 21, 2011 06:47 | #15 Edwin Herdman wrote in post #13577816 Wrong - it fits various TS-E lenses just fine, including the TS-E 17mm and the TS-E 90mm f/2.8 (though sharpness with the 90mm seemed lacking, with the 2X Mark III). And the MP-E65 1Dx2 (2), 5DSR, 1Ds3, 1D4, 5D2(590nm), 5D2(720nm) EF600 EF400 EF300-II EF300 EF200 EF200-II EF180L EF135L EF100 EF85-II EF50L TS-E17/4 TS-E24L-II TS-E45 TS-E90 MP-E65 EF70-200-II EF24-70/2.8-II EF16-35/4 EF8-15/4 EF11-24/4 Zeiss 15/2.8 21/2.8 25/2 28/2 35/1.4 35/2 50/2 85/1.4 100/2 135/2 T/C's L-SC & a WIFE!
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