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Lightroom Selective Sharpening Part II!!

 
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Dec 20, 2011 19:53 |  #1

Hey all,

Some of you saw my "Selective Sharpening" project with a squirrel:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1127481

After that project I decided to take on another "critter" shot from last year, a rabbit!

This was shot with the 1D3 at ISO 800, not a real high ISO for that camera, but between a busy background and a bit of noise I just wasn't particularly pleased.

Here's the original (no cropping or special processing aside from LR 1.4 defaults), followed by a close crop. You can see some of the problem with that background there!:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456041/original.jpg


IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456040/original.jpg

When I first had the shot I was using LR 1.4, so I did what I'd consider my "normal" Lightroom 1.4 "global" processing on it. Because of the noise, I went light on the sharpening, and applied some noise reduction (and some other stuff) and came out with this:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456070/original.jpg

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456069/original.jpg

Maybe not terrible, but still I wasn't happy, but since I got LR 3, I've occasionally thought of revisiting this and some other "similar" images. So finally last night I broke out the adjustment brushes for sharpening the rabbit and softening the background, as well as pulling back a bit on the Clarity! Here's the result:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456568/original.jpg

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/140456569/original.jpg

Now I won't claim to have done a perfect job. I did put more work into the "fine tuning" of things, especially in the line between the fur and the background, than I did in the squirrel shot, and I'd say the image is a "step forward"...

The "bad news" is that this type of work is beastly when it comes to system resources! All the brush strokes, maybe at least a hundred or so, have to be processed/calculated and recalculated, and with my older 32-bit system, which is limited to using less than 3GB of RAM, well, it just got clobbered, to the extent where, well, I won't be able to take on too many projects like this!

I admit, I like to stick to Lightroom rather than resort to Photoshop, but I may need to go with PS for this type of project until I can upgrade my system...oh well.

Anyway, I hope this project and the squirrel project can interest and maybe encourage some folks to get in there and try things out (assuming you have a 64-bit system and, say, 8GB of RAM)!

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Dec 20, 2011 20:06 |  #2

Even with 8 gigs of ram (and a quad core processor) a complicated adjustment brush mask can really bog things down. Thanks for posting these, this is a way of dealing with noise in LR that I had completely overlooked.


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Dec 20, 2011 20:17 |  #3

Dustin Mustangs wrote in post #13576330 (external link)
Even with 8 gigs of ram (and a quad core processor) a complicated adjustment brush mask can really bog things down. Thanks for posting these, this is a way of dealing with noise in LR that I had completely overlooked.

Well, Dustin, like I said I hope it can be an encouragement! But yeah, it's a resource hog!


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Dec 21, 2011 13:04 |  #4

Tony, you probably know this already you Lightroom Fundi, but did you remember to turn off any lens corrections before attempting the adjustment brush marathon?


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Dec 21, 2011 13:06 |  #5

Oh and I forgot to add that I think you did a Fantastic job!

May I ask what the brush settings were for the fine hair part? Did you tick the auto mask box?


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Dec 21, 2011 13:32 |  #6

cagenuts wrote in post #13579744 (external link)
Tony, you probably know this already you Lightroom Fundi, but did you remember to turn off any lens corrections before attempting the adjustment brush marathon?

I just have the lens correction settings on the default settings, whatever those are. I don't mess with the lens corrections stuff unless I need to, so I don't know if they affected performance or not!

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Oh and I forgot to add that I think you did a Fantastic job!

May I ask what the brush settings were for the fine hair part? Did you tick the auto mask box?

Hey, thanks for the compliment!

As to the fine hairs, yes, auto mask was checked, and it can be a help. But at the same time those dang fine hairs can be more of a pain than they can be worth -- I zoomed in at a 2:1 view and went over a lot of them with very small brushes, both to soften edges and to resharpen, but at some point I gave up, since the processing resources required would clobber me at almost every move:)!


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Dec 21, 2011 13:39 |  #7

This just demonstrates I need to give more thought to using the selective brush technique in LR3. I really dont get the most out of it.


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Dec 21, 2011 13:43 |  #8

Tony, in that case just check that this option is NOT selected as it negatively affects performance on computers with less than desired resources.

Thanks for the adjustment brush feedback.


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Dec 21, 2011 14:04 |  #9

cagenuts wrote in post #13579926 (external link)
Tony, in that case just check that this option is NOT selected as it negatively affects performance on computers with less than desired resources.

Yeah, mine stays off, in fact it stays in Manual mode. I don't often use the feature, but when I need to I'll usually do it in Manual.

Thanks for the adjustment brush feedback.

Hey, I'm happy to have the tools! I just am limited as to how much I can use them, and I have thousands of wildlife/bird shots that could really benefit from them!


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