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Dec 23, 2011 19:55 |  #16

The problem with the Samyang is not the lack of auto focus. Somehow we managed to focus lenses manually for a couple hundred years (though personally I only used manual focus lenses for around 25 years). AFAIK, it's still possible. You might want to get a focus screen that makes it easier, but that's possible, too.

I'm not saying AF isn't nice. It is. It's faster and more accurate than I ever was, manually focusing lenses. I'm able to get shots with AF that I never could with manual focus.

The bigger issue is probably the manual aperture. That makes it slower to operate the lens, having to stop it down manually, doing "match needle" metering. And at smaller apertures your viewfinder will be dim so harder to focus and compose.

The Zeiss ZE may be manual focus, but are still auto aperture (maintained at their widest until the moment of exposure and controllable from the camera).

The Samyang (and their Rokinon, Bower and Vivitar cousins) are all manual, aperture and focus. Focus isn't difficult on their ultrawides such as the fisheye and 14mm, thanks to the gobs of depth of field inherent in those lenses. It's a bit harder with the 35mm and even more challenging with the 85mm. It's got to be especially tricky the 500mm mirror lens (fixed f6.3 aperture).


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Dec 23, 2011 20:15 |  #17

if you can take your time to compose the shot on still subject, then it can be fun to manual focus, but shooting subject in motion in large aperture is going to be PITA, for everyday shooting and candid get the 35L, it is one awesome lens and I love it on my 5D2. Personally I would still pick the 35L even if a brand new Zeiss 35mm 1.4 is selling for half the price of the 35L.


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Dec 23, 2011 22:49 |  #18

BIGANDT wrote in post #13591009 (external link)
yes... didn´t you have that for a little while:- ) ?

Yes, but i knew that it was a bad copy.....i returned it and zeiss agreed that it had problems, they tested it too....but folks on the forum were telling me that it is ok not to be super sharp:-) i will have it again, i really liked it


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Dec 24, 2011 00:46 |  #19
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first photo shot is 35L, and no significance shot at Exposure 0.002 sec (1/640)
Aperture f/1.4
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 200
Exposure Bias 0 EV.

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second is zeiss 35mm same walnut stump :) at Camera Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Exposure 0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture f/1.4
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias 0 EV

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Dec 24, 2011 01:20 |  #20

Both are good, i guess


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Dec 24, 2011 01:25 |  #21
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Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #13592997 (external link)
Both are good, i guess

personally, I like the 35mm f/1.4 ZE Carl Zeiss :)




  
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Dec 24, 2011 01:31 |  #22

ARodriguezPixL wrote in post #13593012 (external link)
personally, I like the 35mm f/1.4 ZE Carl Zeiss :)

Must be something that you do not see on these pictures, because both are good.


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Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #13593026 (external link)
Must be something that you do not see on these pictures, because both are good.

Well this was my third zeiss, two 21mm f/2.8 ze's, but the 35mm 1.4 ze rocked so much, i regret selling :( the colors are just very nice, and no PP involved, as i suck at that! these are handheld, as well! i feel that Zeiss are very unique in their offerings, and their ability at close focus are awesome!!

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Dec 24, 2011 01:48 |  #24
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Dec 24, 2011 02:27 |  #25

You know, it's like with parents - they all think their kids are special and unique above anybody else:-)
They tend to see something what other people do not:-)


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Dec 24, 2011 02:34 |  #26
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Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #13593138 (external link)
You know, it's like with parents - they all think their kids are special and unique above anybody else:-)
They tend to see something what other people do not:-)

Thats very odd, you see as a parent, I find both my children above and beyond normal in their own certain ways of course, but they do have there own certain traits that make them rather different, aside their sexes, and of course ages,10, and 16 years old, but of course of I treated above and beyond their natural gifts, well then, i would be setting them up for real knock on their own realities? Well ok now back to the lenses, which are actually constructed, and manufacture to specs, the zeiss uses its own tolerences, and if i am not mistaken the Zeiss have an unique way of focusing closer than the canon 35L. look it up, and also try a different monitor and you may actually discern a difference.




  
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Dec 24, 2011 02:39 |  #27

ARodriguezPixL wrote in post #13593155 (external link)
Well ok now back to the lenses, which are actually constructed, and manufacture to specs, the zeiss uses its own tolerences, and if i am not mistaken the Zeiss have an unique way of focusing closer than the canon 35L. look it up, and also try a different monitor and you may actually discern a difference.

Your both shots are really good, honestly. I would not know which is which. Maybe after some time you will train your eye to see something and it will be easier to spot the difference if you know what you are looking for, but most people just want to see overall image and they see it as a whole - I guess you will never know which is which in this case, assuming conditions, light and the rest is the same.
I am sure both are great.

As for the Samyang - I personally think that it is brilliant to offer folks a tool for 25% of the price of Zeiss that they can use and produce equally stunning images. Not everybody can afford Zeiss or Canon L, but those folks can give other photographers a run for their money:-) So...Samyang, I guess...is a great opportunity. Probably the comfort of using will be different and psychological aspect of not having Zeiss or Canon L....not sure what other difference there might be:-)


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Dec 24, 2011 02:41 |  #28
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ask the Android, he knows :)

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Dec 24, 2011 02:44 |  #29
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the canons 35L

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Dec 24, 2011 05:05 |  #30

I took the plunge today and ordered a new Samyang 35mm f/1.4 for my 5D Mk1, I've also found a mint/used Samyang 14mm f/2.8 which I've decided to go for also, so these two lenses should arrive within the next week or so.

Looking forward to trying them out on my full frame 5D, I'll post a few photo's. Fun times ahead.


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