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Dec 25, 2011 18:35 |  #1

In the options in camera i selected the speedlite only to fire (pic of a speedlite) and for some reason my on camera flash still fires everytime along with the speedlite.

Am I missing an option somewhere?




  
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Dec 25, 2011 18:39 |  #2

The 60d controls the remote flash with the popup flash. It has to fire to make this work. It fires control flashes before the shutter opens.



  
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Dec 25, 2011 18:41 |  #3

dedsen wrote in post #13598190 (external link)
The 60d controls the remote flash with the popup flash. It has to fire to make this work. It fires control flashes before the shutter opens.

Doh!
Thanks for the quick reply. I will slink back into my corner slowly... :oops:




  
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Dec 25, 2011 18:54 |  #4

Do not feel bad. This same issue comes up at least once a week. :)



  
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Dec 25, 2011 19:28 |  #5

dedsen wrote in post #13598237 (external link)
Do not feel bad. This same issue comes up at least once a week. :)

Ok now I feel worse




  
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Dec 26, 2011 09:15 |  #6

The pop up still contributes to the exposure. I can't seem to completely prevent it unless I stop WAY down.


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Dec 27, 2011 20:07 |  #7

idsurfer wrote in post #13600022 (external link)
The pop up still contributes to the exposure. I can't seem to completely prevent it unless I stop WAY down.

That's normal and the way it's supposed to be done.


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Dec 27, 2011 20:36 |  #8

It's on the manual. RTFM! :p


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Dec 28, 2011 14:59 |  #9

Who has time to read the manual? You can control how much the popup, down to zero, contributes to the exposure. There is a menu setting for that.


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Dec 28, 2011 15:07 |  #10

If you have turned off the flash function on the 60D, so you see the icon where only the slave is firing, then the pop up flash is not adding to the exposure. Its just a pre flash for the slaves.


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Dec 28, 2011 18:57 |  #11

If you tape a little strip of exposed color film over the pop-up flash, the only light that will go through is infrared. I cheated the system!
(I also use a 60d)




  
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Dec 28, 2011 19:08 |  #12

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If you tape a little strip of exposed color film over the pop-up flash, the only light that will go through is infrared. I cheated the system!
(I also use a 60d)

You're also defeating the purpose of the pre-flash.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:11 |  #13

I am not sure how you figure this. The STE2 has an IR filter over it's flash tube and it works just fine.
All of this extra light talk is mute unless you are very close to the subject anyway.



  
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Dec 28, 2011 19:30 |  #14

dedsen wrote in post #13612208 (external link)
I am not sure how you figure this. The STE2 has an IR filter over it's flash tube and it works just fine.
All of this extra light talk is mute unless you are very close to the subject anyway.

The pre-flash is used to meter the frame, therefore its telling the TTL flashes how much power they need to output.

The ST-E2 and built-in triggers both fire pre-flashes, but their designs are different. By taping/covering the 60D flash, you're not only interfering with its design, you risk damaging the flash (think heat build up). If you don't want a pre-flash, use the off camera flashes in manual mode.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:34 |  #15

If you have set the option for the popup not to contribute to the exposure, it is only sending commands to the remote flashes. Only the remote flashes issue preflashes to be measured. Why would you need to measure a preflash that is not going to be used in the actual exposure?



  
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